2010 Mustang

[Rekt]

Originally Posted by truth411

UM am I missing something here?? Ford releases a 5.0 V8 to BECOME competitive with the camaro SS and that is a nail in the coffin for GM??
Oh thats right a 400hp mustang competes with a 426 hp Camaro, yeah I bet those chevy boys are trembling in their boots (sarcasim implied)

The Mustang also doesn't have a 3900 lbs in fat to carry around either

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by Rekt

The Mustang also doesn't have a 3900 lbs in fat to carry around either

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by Rekt

The Mustang also doesn't have a 3900 lbs in fat to carry around either

excuse me if im wrong but wont the 5.0 and IRS add weight so idk

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

excuse me if im wrong but wont the 5.0 and IRS add weight so idk

Supposedly it won't and it's also an aluminum block, so we might see equal or less weight

IDK about them adding IRS though

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Supposedly it won't and it's also an aluminum block, so we might see equal or less weight

IDK about them adding IRS though

Without IRS its the same crap.


With IRS it weighs as much as the Camaro and its advantage is gone.

[Rekt]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Without IRS its the same crap.


With IRS it weighs as much as the Camaro and its advantage is gone.

Not even close. An IRS will not weigh 400 lbs.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Rekt

Not even close. An IRS will not weigh 400 lbs.

Which is good, because it doesn't have a 400lb advantage.

[nester7929]

Originally Posted by truth411

UM am I missing something here?? Ford releases a 5.0 V8 to BECOME competitive with the camaro SS and that is a nail in the coffin for GM??
Oh thats right a 400hp mustang competes with a 426 hp Camaro, yeah I bet those chevy boys are trembling in their boots (sarcasim implied)

Depends on how you define "competitive." Sales is the area that GM needs to be the most competitive in right now, and that's something that Ford has never relinquished control of. People have never been shy about purchasing a Mustang with less power for less money, and it looks like history may very well repeat itself unless GM can make the base Camaro as cheap as possible. GM does have to become "competitive" because it is trying to take a good chunk of market share from Ford in an area that it has dominated for decades in sales.

But I digress. A 400-hp Mustang would certainly be able to compete with the Camaro SS. We're talking about a difference of less than 30-hp with similarly-sized vehicles. Only the most experienced of drivers would even notice the difference in power between the two. A driver's race for sure.

People look at the sticker price. That's what matters in this market. Unlike us, the average person is not out to get the most bang for the buck, but to spend as little as possible and still have a fun car to drive.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Rekt

The Mustang also doesn't have a 3900 lbs in fat to carry around either

just check out the gt500 subtract 100hp and you have your new 5.0 gt......yea slow

[clydsdale]

nester7929, BRAVO!!!!!

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by clydsdale

nester7929, BRAVO!!!!!

yeah bravo ...i havent heard so much bullsh$%t since my pet bulldog ate my 2 week old meatloaf

[truth411]

Originally Posted by nester7929

Depends on how you define "competitive." Sales is the area that GM needs to be the most competitive in right now, and that's something that Ford has never relinquished control of. People have never been shy about purchasing a Mustang with less power for less money, and it looks like history may very well repeat itself unless GM can make the base Camaro as cheap as possible. GM does have to become "competitive" because it is trying to take a good chunk of market share from Ford in an area that it has dominated for decades in sales.

But I digress. A 400-hp Mustang would certainly be able to compete with the Camaro SS. We're talking about a difference of less than 30-hp with similarly-sized vehicles. Only the most experienced of drivers would even notice the difference in power between the two. A driver's race for sure.

People look at the sticker price. That's what matters in this market. Unlike us, the average person is not out to get the most bang for the buck, but to spend as little as possible and still have a fun car to drive.

Um maybe you have not noticed the price of the 2010 mustang compared to the camaro. The Base V6 mustang is ONLY $655 cheaper than the Base camaro when includeing destonation charges. For $655 you get 94 more Hp, Better fuel economy, Better everyday ride (IRS) believe it or not american roads are not butter smooth, And far better handling car. The V6 Camaro is superior than the after thought Mustang in every feasible way. It is basicaly a cheaper G-37 coupe. It is the base car that keeps production going, not the V8s. The camaro always had the better performing V8 cars, at one point in time I think chevy were selling the same amount of V8s as V6s in the 4-th gen camaros. The mustang has been around because of the base car sellin like 10 to 1 compared to the GT. Now that GM learned their lesson and made the Base car a truly execptionaly car within $655 of the joke V6 Mustang we shall see what happens. When those new powertrain comes out for the mustang expect a price and weight increase. Right now the mustang is about 300lbs lighter, than the camaro expect that to narrow abit. Wow it seem that some mustang loyalist are living on another planet and are inventing an artifical reality.

[Bocephus]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

excuse me if im wrong but wont the 5.0 and IRS add weight so idk

No IRS for the Mustang for the foreseeable future. The 2014 Mustang might keep the solid axle.

[Speed74SS]

I listened to motortrend radio last week and they had one of the Ford engine guys on there talking about the new Ecoboost 3.5 being built in Cleveland. He said the Ecoboost would be the engine that Ford goes to in almost all of its vehicles and didn't mention anything about the 5.0 engine. He mentioned that the mustangs would probably get the 3.5 Ecoboost also. I am a chevy guy all the way but the 3.5 Ecoboost TT engine looks to be a very good engine, it sounded very impressive.