09-07-2010, 08:44 PM | #1 |
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Pfadt trailing arms
I am looking at getting rid of my wheel hop. I want the pfadt rear trailing arms. Will the bushings that come with these effect the ride a lot? I am also looking at getting toe rods. I believe pfadt calls them rear tie rods though. Is this the same as a toe rod. I am iffy on these as they are adjustable, this car is a dd so I am wondering if the adjustable ones are right for me as I don't need any tweaking and the fixed ones are already the correct length. Are adjustables bad if you dont race? I really want to keep to the same brand.
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09-07-2010, 09:44 PM | #2 |
Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS-3 Join Date: Jul 2010
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I have the trailing arms and really like them. Mine is also a DD as well. I also have the lowering springs, subframe bushings, and front and rear sway bars and it has totally changed my driving experience. Something you might be intrested in doing later on down the road. As far as your other question Im not sure maybe one of the other guys/gals can answer that for you.
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09-07-2010, 09:51 PM | #3 |
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The polyurethane bushings that come with the PFADT rear lower trailing arms are harder (higher durometer) than the factory rubber bushings but should not drastically affect the ride quality. The PFADT adjustable race rear tie rods (toe rods) replace the eccentric bolts for toe adjustment with steel plates and rear toe is adjusted by changing the length of the tie rod itself; they use teflon-lined spherical bearings so they will transmit more road noise and harshness than the factory toe rods. Another choice would be to reinforce the factory toe rods by welding on the PFADT control arm stiffeners and replace the factory tie rod bushings with the PFADT tie rod bushings to keep the ride quality as close to factory as possible. Hopefully, PFADT will offer a street version (fixed length) rear toe links soon. HTH
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09-08-2010, 03:47 AM | #4 | |
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09-08-2010, 07:17 AM | #5 |
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what is another good brand? Does pedders make any fixed toe rods? I know BMR does. Are those any good?
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09-08-2010, 08:14 AM | #6 |
and MR. HYDE
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I just had the Pfadt trailing arms, front and rear sways with end links and lowering springs installed. I got an awesome stance ad it handles like it is on rails.
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09-08-2010, 09:18 AM | #7 | |
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We offer 3 different Toe Rods - A non-adjustable polyurethane version (our most popular), an adjustable polyurethane version, and an adjustable rod end version. The rod end version has better articulation and less bind, but it it has more NVH and more $$$. Hopefully, some of our customers will chime in........ Camaro 5 does not allow us to discuss pricing, so check out our website if you have time: BMR |
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09-08-2010, 12:57 PM | #8 | |
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In regards to the toe rods/tie rods, as TCao stated, we have two options. The adjustable ones are the high-end option, as they are lighter, stronger, adjustable, and have virtually zero-deflection in them, due to the high-strength rod ends used in the assembly. Honestly though, I do not think this product is mandatory for your application. It sounds like you are looking for something a little more basic, with less features. For that, we have the most cost-effective solution, which is a control arm stiffener, or tie-rod stiffener etc. used in conjunction with a poly replacement bushing kit. This is essentially doing exactly what the Pfadt rear trailing arm upgrade does. It is strengthening the link tremendously, and limiting the deflection in the bushings themselves, by changing the material properties. The major benefit of this, is that it is very in-expensive, as you are still utilizing your OEM toe rod. In the end, this will be making the OEM toe rod, perform just like the Pfadt Trailing Arm. |
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09-09-2010, 07:20 AM | #9 |
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Is the rear tie road from pfadt the same as a toe road? I know what trailing arm I want but need to know what toe road to put in. I am a DD. Do I want adjustable?
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09-09-2010, 12:50 PM | #10 |
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jordan 572, I responded to your PM as well, but its good to clarify here.
Yes the tie rod and toe rod are the same thing. For your application, I do not think it is mandatory to install an adjustable tie rod. The adjustable tie rod has many benefits besides adjustability, mainly it is a LOT stronger and a LOT lighter. It is always a great idea to install parts that are lighter and stronger. For your application, the Tie Rod Stiffener and poly Tie Rod Bushings will be what you are looking for. Even these parts are much stronger, and are even LIGHTER overall than the OEM piece. Our trailing arm is 300% stronger in tension and compression, has a 65% reduction in deflection and carries a 20% weight reduction each, including bushings (take a look at the comparison pictures!). So as you can see, we follow the same trends of making parts that not only perform better, but are lighter and stronger when applicable. Any option you go with, you get those benefits. |
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