Wanting to Twin Turbo, Found a Kit....MIGHT be too good to be true.

[Jyrine]

Alright C5, I'm looking into a twin turbo kit for my 11' SS and I've come across QUITE the steal.

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...twin-turbo.htm

Apparently, this company for the low price (seems low to me) of $8999, will send you a complete Twin turbo kit, capable of producing up to 1000hp on pump gas.


Alright, so what's the catch I'm stuck up on? It claims its BOLT ON with, get this, NO need to change the stock internals.

Now unless I'm missing something, the only thing I know that can actually be bolted on is the E-Force supercharger, and even those can cause little issues. I mean I know the LSX family is built EXTREMELY well...But 1000hp on pump gas and stock internals?

Is this too good to be true? does anyone have experience with them? Am I asking too many questions?


And I'll ask now since I think I know how this TT kit is going to end up, does anyone here know of a site where I can order a really good TT kit? Doesn't need insane HP and TQ seeing as I REALLY don't want to change stock internals. And I mean REALLY don't want too.

Once again, thank you in advance for the help I'm sure you'll provide.

[camslambam]

I'd stay away from TTs unless you have a shop to install and do all the other stuff.

Your internals won't handle that much power. Internals are different in all cars but I think a good stopping point is 650rwhp, or about 10psi. Anything over that and you're really risking it.

1000HP crank is about 800ish rwhp. You're going to need about 30-40k to get there. (Suspension, transmission, forged internals, cam, just about everything). Probably more to be honest. I have about 630rwhp before my next upgrades and have spent about....$24-25,000.

[JLE58]

Originally Posted by Jyrine

Alright C5, I'm looking into a twin turbo kit for my 11' SS and I've come across QUITE the steal.

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...twin-turbo.htm

Apparently, this company for the low price (seems low to me) of $8999, will send you a complete Twin turbo kit, capable of producing up to 1000hp on pump gas.


Alright, so what's the catch I'm stuck up on? It claims its BOLT ON with, get this, NO need to change the stock internals.

Now unless I'm missing something, the only thing I know that can actually be bolted on is the E-Force supercharger, and even those can cause little issues. I mean I know the LSX family is built EXTREMELY well...But 1000hp on pump gas and stock internals?

Is this too good to be true? does anyone have experience with them? Am I asking too many questions?


And I'll ask now since I think I know how this TT kit is going to end up, does anyone here know of a site where I can order a really good TT kit? Doesn't need insane HP and TQ seeing as I REALLY don't want to change stock internals. And I mean REALLY don't want too.

Once again, thank you in advance for the help I'm sure you'll provide.

They make a good kit. A few people on here have that kit... nothing magic about the kit it will blow the motor just the same as the supercharger..... If you want twin turbo than its a pretty good kit.

[Turbo99]

Originally Posted by Jyrine

Alright C5, I'm looking into a twin turbo kit for my 11' SS and I've come across QUITE the steal.

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...twin-turbo.htm

Apparently, this company for the low price (seems low to me) of $8999, will send you a complete Twin turbo kit, capable of producing up to 1000hp on pump gas.


Alright, so what's the catch I'm stuck up on? It claims its BOLT ON with, get this, NO need to change the stock internals.

Now unless I'm missing something, the only thing I know that can actually be bolted on is the E-Force supercharger, and even those can cause little issues. I mean I know the LSX family is built EXTREMELY well...But 1000hp on pump gas and stock internals?

Is this too good to be true? does anyone have experience with them? Am I asking too many questions?


And I'll ask now since I think I know how this TT kit is going to end up, does anyone here know of a site where I can order a really good TT kit? Doesn't need insane HP and TQ seeing as I REALLY don't want to change stock internals. And I mean REALLY don't want too.

Once again, thank you in advance for the help I'm sure you'll provide.

Almost all the supercharger kits are bolt and come with all that you need with very little issues. Some turbo kits out there that claim bolt on but I have yet to see one come out truoble free.

[uniqueskillz]

IPS makes a good TT kit. Its a few people on the forum with it. You'll have to keep the boost within reason (I wouldn't go over 650hp) on stock motor.

Kit Details: http://ipsmotorsports.net/ips_motors...t/g-65338.aspx

I just installed the TTI/Granatelli twin turbo kit. I believe the baseline numbers on a LS3 @ 8psi makes 615wrhp/613lbs torq.

[Jyrine]

Originally Posted by JLE58

They make a good kit. A few people on here have that kit... nothing magic about the kit it will blow the motor just the same as the supercharger..... If you want twin turbo than its a pretty good kit.

Are....are you saying there numbers are real?

I knew the 1000hp thing would quickly blow on stock internals.
But the 663rwhp and 649 ft/lbs of torque reported numbers ACTUALLY work on the stock motor?! Just Bolt on?!!
Mind you I've never really dove into Turbo tech.

I shoulds add I have no intention of producing even that much power, I was just looking for about 100hp/100tq over stock to the wheels.....And I know some people say go for superchargers but I'd much rathre go Twin Turbo.

[JLE58]

Originally Posted by Jyrine

Are....are you saying there numbers are real?

I knew the 1000hp thing would quickly blow on stock internals.
But the 663rwhp and 649 ft/lbs of torque reported numbers ACTUALLY work on the stock motor?! Just Bolt on?!!
Mind you I've never really dove into Turbo tech.

I shoulds add I have no intention of producing even that much power, I was just looking for about 100hp/100tq over stock to the wheels.....And I know some people say go for superchargers but I'd much rathre go Twin Turbo.

Sure with the right amount of boost or size turbos you can make that power.... yeah twins are pretty cool. I like superchargers also so doesnt really matter to me which way people go. Must people that say dont go turbo have never even owned a turbo car same way with people that say superchargers s**k. Its your money get what makes you happy.

[camslambam]

for 100 more cam/bolt on would be logical step. Much less prone to failure.

[SSE 4 2SS]

Jyrine...

I wouldn't compare kits based on price... There are several companies out there making TT kits and some are reasonably priced, some not so much... I won't go into my personal thoughts here since I would have to ban myself...

That price from a reputable company seems right in line...

One thing, yes, the kit will make that kind of power, but that's at the extreme range... Your block won't handle it... Install a kit like that, run 7-8 lbs of boost and be close to 600 hp and have a ball... Things nay break at stock power levels... Just be prepared if they do...

[east TX Muscle cars]

All they are saying is the kit "CAN" do 1000hp, not that you should on a stock motor. the TT kit is just like the supercharger. put it at 7 PSI to stay very safe, 9 to push it a little and 10-11 to push the limits of the motor. we just installed "uniqueskillz" kit he was talking about and are going to start selling them and installing them. I was very impressed with the results and how well the kit was made. for a Good TT kit your going to spend a MINIMUM of 10K installed.

[uniqueskillz]

Originally Posted by east TX Muscle cars

All they are saying is the kit "CAN" do 1000hp, not that you should on a stock motor. the TT kit is just like the supercharger. put it at 7 PSI to stay very safe, 9 to push it a little and 10-11 to push the limits of the motor. we just installed "uniqueskillz" kit he was talking about and are going to start selling them and installing them. I was very impressed with the results and how well the kit was made. for a Good TT kit your going to spend a MINIMUM of 10K installed.

The beast is running flawless by the way Stephen...lol

[pyr0b0y]

Like everyone has said, you won't be making 1000hp with the stock block. And the turbos might handle that much boost, but at absolute perfect conditions.

I have the IPS kit and love it, no issues with the turbo system I'n 20k miles. I've also seen and heard good things about the granarelli TT kit.

At some point your going to want to add a little more boost, a little more, and a little more until you have to decide if you are going to forge your motor. Once you go forged, your options are limitless with a TT setup!

[uniqueskillz]

Originally Posted by pyr0b0y

Like everyone has said, you won't be making 1000hp with the stock block. And the turbos might handle that much boost, but at absolute perfect conditions.

I have the IPS kit and love it, no issues with the turbo system I'n 20k miles. I've also seen and heard good things about the granarelli TT kit.

At some point your going to want to add a little more boost, a little more, and a little more until you have to decide if you are going to forge your motor. Once you go forged, your options are limitless with a TT setup!

That's me, I want more boost already...lol. I gotta get with ETMC and decide whether to forge internals or get a lsx376.

[SRT10KLLR]

Originally Posted by east TX Muscle cars

All they are saying is the kit "CAN" do 1000hp, not that you should on a stock motor. the TT kit is just like the supercharger. put it at 7 PSI to stay very safe, 9 to push it a little and 10-11 to push the limits of the motor. we just installed "uniqueskillz" kit he was talking about and are going to start selling them and installing them. I was very impressed with the results and how well the kit was made. for a Good TT kit your going to spend a MINIMUM of 10K installed.

The kit is capable of 1000hp but your engine may not be. If you ever build the engine though you could turn up the boost.