Suspension Questions: ZL1 vs. 1LE Sway Bars - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stt816 · 05-23-2013, 09:52 PM

in the process of doing a suspension overhaul. I am getting drop springs. I am getting new rims (keeping stock pirelli's) and getting sway bars. From my understanding for rims (with stock tires) it is better to go with 20x9 all around (square setup) opposed to staggered 20x9 front 20x10 rear... so in the future once these tires wear out I will also continue with the square tire setup like the 1LE has...That being said I want to buy either the 1LE or ZL1 sways. Heard 1LE is better for square but ZL1 is better for Staggered. Since I would be staggered for now until tires wear out, what would you do if you were in my position... I do not drag race, just aggressive street driving. Thanks.

Avalnch · 05-23-2013, 10:15 PM

I'd go with 20x10 all around instead. The 1LE or ZL1 sway bars will make your 9" rears really loose. Remember that both the 1LE and ZL1 both have 10" rears.

stt816 · 05-23-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalnch

I'd go with 20x10 all around instead. The 1LE or ZL1 sway bars will make your 9" rears really loose. Remember that both the 1LE and ZL1 both have 10" rears.

stock tires wont fit 20x10 up front though right?

ICTsccaCamaro · 05-23-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalnch

I'd go with 20x10 all around instead. The 1LE or ZL1 sway bars will make your 9" rears really loose. Remember that both the 1LE and ZL1 both have 10" rears.

Disagree I love our ZL1 sways with our 20x9 275's all around set up the car is very neutral when pushing it hard into the corners and just has a "slight" bit of on throttle oversteer from the apex out. Car sticks amazingly well threw the slalom best set up so far but we are running a bit of camber front and rear also

stt816 · 05-23-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ICTsccaCamaro

Disagree I love our ZL1 sways with our 20x9 275's all around set up the car is very neutral when pushing it hard into the corners and just has a "slight" bit of on throttle oversteer from the apex out. Car sticks amazingly well threw the slalom best set up so far but we are running a bit of camber front and rear also

hmmm interesting, so you would say zl1 over 1le sways?

Team STILLEN · 05-24-2013, 10:03 AM

Or you can go with the PFADT ZL-Spec Front & Rear Adjustable Sway Bars!!

PM or Call me with any questions.

Thanks

JT

stt816 · 05-24-2013, 10:11 AM

yeah I bet those pfadt's are great, wanted the zl1 or 1le bars because they are significantly cheaper and I don't use the track, so either one of the zl1 or 1le bars would be fine for me, just trying to figure out which one

Team STILLEN · 05-24-2013, 10:42 AM

Not sure what the price is on the ZL1 or 1LE Sways but PFADT also has their Sport Sway bars at a good price!

ICTsccaCamaro · 05-24-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stt816

hmmm interesting, so you would say zl1 over 1le sways?

ZL1 and 1LE have the same part number rear sway bar, and the 1LE front sway bar is only 1mm larger than the ZL1 front sway bar so really there is just a very small difference, we bought our zl1 sways long before the 1LE was even heard of but if I were you I would go 1LE for the 1mm larger front sway

heymatt · 05-25-2013, 07:15 PM

That's the set up I'm working towards. Staying with the stock staggered wheels for now. ZL1 rear sway and the 1LE front bar. Both are OE stock with stock links. Right now I'm waiting on the front links. They have been on back order. Rear sway is on. Not planning on tracking it. Just get a little better plant in the corners.

For now.

ICTsccaCamaro · 05-26-2013, 07:08 PM

Youll need to hit a few local autocrosses to make sure all that hard earned money is working correctly in the corners

L99CAMA2011 · 05-27-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Team STILLEN

Or you can go with the PFADT ZL-Spec Front & Rear Adjustable Sway Bars!!

PM or Call me with any questions.

Thanks

JT

These rims at 22.8lbs, Pfadt ZL-1 sways and radius rod bushing mod would put your in good standing. Stock 20x9s are still heavy is heck 37lbs vs 22.8 lbs do the math. Lighter wheels will make your steering quicker and make the car feel more nimble also quicker with reduced rotational mass.

sycraft · 05-27-2013, 10:42 PM

I had the 1 LE bars, changed to the LSR Bars and really love them, excellent pricing too. Call Rodney at LSR..
http://www.lsrperformance.com/camaro-suspension.html

Ir0nM4n · 02-05-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalnch

I'd go with 20x10 all around instead. The 1LE or ZL1 sway bars will make your 9" rears really loose. Remember that both the 1LE and ZL1 both have 10" rears.

That is false,

Wheels 20x10 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798741
Wheels 20x11 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798743

Just trying to help out.

05-23-2013, 09:52 PM	#1
stt816 Drives: 2012 Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stamford, Connecticut Posts: 672	Suspension Questions: ZL1 vs. 1LE Sway Bars in the process of doing a suspension overhaul. I am getting drop springs. I am getting new rims (keeping stock pirelli's) and getting sway bars. From my understanding for rims (with stock tires) it is better to go with 20x9 all around (square setup) opposed to staggered 20x9 front 20x10 rear... so in the future once these tires wear out I will also continue with the square tire setup like the 1LE has...That being said I want to buy either the 1LE or ZL1 sways. Heard 1LE is better for square but ZL1 is better for Staggered. Since I would be staggered for now until tires wear out, what would you do if you were in my position... I do not drag race, just aggressive street driving. Thanks. __________________ Pfadt Race Engineering 1.25" Lowering Springs\| Pfadt Spec Performance Street Alignment\|ZL1 Front Bumper Conversion\|ZL1 20x9 Rims\|Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus 275/40R20Y Square Setup\|\|Footwell Lighting\|G2 Gold Painted Brake Calipers *Stainless Power Long Tube Headers\|Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake\|VMAX CNC Spiral Ported Throttle Body\|Stainless Works Retro Chambered Catback\| Vitesse Throttle Controller* --Jannetty Racing Enterprises Dyno Tuned\|408 RWHP Last edited by stt816; 05-24-2013 at 10:30 AM.

05-23-2013, 10:15 PM	#2
Avalnch Drives: Rally Yellow Camaro+Avalanche Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,110	I'd go with 20x10 all around instead. The 1LE or ZL1 sway bars will make your 9" rears really loose. Remember that both the 1LE and ZL1 both have 10" rears. __________________ Vengeance Kaotik Cam, C.A.I., ARH LT, Pypes Cat Back, ZL1 Shifter+2012LS3VERT bushing, Quantum Brake Ducts, JDP Tow Hook Scorch Yellow Trim Kit, Shark Fin, AAC DRLs+ABLs+SMDs, ZTA Rear Spoiler, R.Y. 1LE Splitter. Pfadt coilovers, camber plates, trailing arms, Pegasus Solid Subframe. Pedders ZL1 barz, radius arm & steering rack bushings. BMR adjustable toe-rods. Hotchkis Max Chassis Brace. ZL1 GMPP Driveline Upgrade. TurnOne P/S pump. CTS-V 6 pistons. 447 HP @ 6180 RPM / 418 TQ @ 5100 RPM

05-24-2013, 10:11 AM	#7
stt816 Drives: 2012 Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stamford, Connecticut Posts: 672	yeah I bet those pfadt's are great, wanted the zl1 or 1le bars because they are significantly cheaper and I don't use the track, so either one of the zl1 or 1le bars would be fine for me, just trying to figure out which one __________________ Pfadt Race Engineering 1.25" Lowering Springs\| Pfadt Spec Performance Street Alignment\|ZL1 Front Bumper Conversion\|ZL1 20x9 Rims\|Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus 275/40R20Y Square Setup\|\|Footwell Lighting\|G2 Gold Painted Brake Calipers *Stainless Power Long Tube Headers\|Cold Air Inductions Cold Air Intake\|VMAX CNC Spiral Ported Throttle Body\|Stainless Works Retro Chambered Catback\| Vitesse Throttle Controller* --Jannetty Racing Enterprises Dyno Tuned\|408 RWHP

05-25-2013, 07:15 PM	#10
heymatt Drives: 2012 IBM 2SS Vert. Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tequesta, Fl. Posts: 784	That's the set up I'm working towards. Staying with the stock staggered wheels for now. ZL1 rear sway and the 1LE front bar. Both are OE stock with stock links. Right now I'm waiting on the front links. They have been on back order. Rear sway is on. Not planning on tracking it. Just get a little better plant in the corners. For now. __________________ LS3/M6 K&N, VMAX throttle body, RX Catch Can, skip shift eliminator, DT shorties and Solo HFC, DRL harness and 5K LED DRL, ZL1 rear sway, 1LE front sway

05-26-2013, 07:08 PM	#11
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	Youll need to hit a few local autocrosses to make sure all that hard earned money is working correctly in the corners __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap

05-24-2013, 10:03 AM	#6
Team STILLEN Drives: Varies Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,182	Or you can go with the PFADT ZL-Spec Front & Rear Adjustable Sway Bars!! PM or Call me with any questions. Thanks JT

05-24-2013, 10:42 AM	#8
Team STILLEN Drives: Varies Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,182	Not sure what the price is on the ZL1 or 1LE Sways but PFADT also has their Sport Sway bars at a good price!

05-27-2013, 10:42 PM	#13
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	I had the 1 LE bars, changed to the LSR Bars and really love them, excellent pricing too. Call Rodney at LSR.. http://www.lsrperformance.com/camaro-suspension.html __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said