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Padre · 05-25-2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc

I really like this thread and the way you've gone about your build. Great stuff!!!

Much appreciated since you've got the best build on the site.

Padre

Padre · 05-25-2011, 04:54 PM

Update from APF: the Meziere WP329N does not fit the L99 because of the VVT.

http://www.meziere.com/ps-1507-1520-wp329n.aspx
This water pump model features:
. Fits 2010 and later Camaro's with GM LS-3 and L99 engines

Jon@APF called Meziere and the Meziere guy said, "oops, guess we didn't test it on an L99."

Anyone want an opened but unused Meziere Electric Water Pump for a Camaro LS3?

This is why I'm glad I had it at the shop rather than all opened up in my backyard when this was discovered. I'd be really pissed then. As it is, I'm just

.

Padre

The Stig · 05-25-2011, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padre

Update from APF: the Meziere WP329N does not fit the L99 because of the VVT.

http://www.meziere.com/ps-1507-1520-wp329n.aspx
This water pump model features:
. Fits 2010 and later Camaro's with GM LS-3 and L99 engines

Jon@APF called Meziere and the Meziere guy said, "oops, guess we didn't test it on an L99."

Anyone want an opened but unused Meziere Electric Water Pump for a Camaro LS3?

This is why I'm glad I had it at the shop rather than all opened up in my backyard when this was discovered. I'd be really pissed then. As it is, I'm just

.

Padre

I mean if you're just giving it away sure I'll take it.

Doc · 05-25-2011, 07:17 PM

Hmmm...wasn't planning on doing this so soon. What color is it? What are you asking for it?

Padre · 05-25-2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc

Hmmm...wasn't planning on doing this so soon. What color is it? What are you asking for it?

Well, I'm going to talk to Meziere and Jegs first, they may give me a full refund. It's their base model, I don't think they have a polished version for the Camaro yet. I paid $859 from Jegs. :(

When John sends me the pics I'll post them and maybe start a new thread, because apparently this is NEWS to Meziere that their advertised L99 EWP DOESN'T FIT and I got to be the first fool to find out.

Too bad. I was really looking forward to trying out an EWP for the first time at the track. Otherwise Meziere EWP's have a good rep.

Padre

Camarowguy · 05-25-2011, 08:43 PM

Wow! Almost 900 bucks for an electric water pump! Damn! That's high as giraffe ass! I never thought that it would cost near that! Anyway...what makes it not fit? Aren't the engines the same externally? I'm anxious to know the difference.

John@APF · 05-25-2011, 08:54 PM

It's the extra thickness of the timing cover. It would work on LS3 no problem. I did a little measuring (with my highly calibrated eyeball) and it might could work with 1" or so spacers, I might do a little research with a block in the engine room and talk to Meziere about it...

Padre, sending you some pics shortly.

Padre · 05-25-2011, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Wow! Almost 900 bucks for an electric water pump! Damn! That's high as giraffe ass! I never thought that it would cost near that! Anyway...what makes it not fit? Aren't the engines the same externally? I'm anxious to know the difference.

The VVT on the L99 makes it different from the LS3. The Camaro has a different serpentine setup than other LS motors, so they designed a new one THAT THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO TEST. That's why it costs more than other LS EWPs.

Padre

Padre · 05-25-2011, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John@APF

It's the extra thickness of the timing cover. It would work on LS3 no problem. I did a little measuring (with my highly calibrated eyeball) and it might could work with 1" or so spacers, I might do a little research with a block in the engine room and talk to Meziere about it...

Padre, sending you some pics shortly.

But with spacers, won't that throw off the geometry of the serpentine system? Or would you put spacers on the other components??

Anyway,here are the pics:

John@APF · 05-25-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padre

But with spacers, won't that throw off the geometry of the serpentine system? Or would you put spacers on the other components??

Anyway,here are the pics:

What I was worried about was spacing the WP out an inch or more would end up putting the tensioner into the radiator

But it looks like the mounting bosses for that are pretty far back and they also send almost an inch long spacer for the tensioner. It might be splitting hairs but I think it might work.... to the batcave LOL

Padre · 05-26-2011, 03:44 PM

BMR 1" Lowering Springs Installed. Thanks John! Can't wait to pick it up.

Padre

Padre · 05-26-2011, 05:53 PM

Just a comparison:

Padre · 05-27-2011, 03:52 PM

Picked it up today. Going racing tonight at an 1/8th mile strip, Brainerd Optimist.

Two things: dayum it looks sharp lowered 1". Harder to get on my trailer, but dayum.

Also, with the 3.45 gears, the 3200 TC, the lowering springs, and the front and rear sway bars, it is a different car, order of magnitude better.

With just the 3200 TC, it was sluggish around town. Now it is tight. And that's keeping the stock tranny tune for daily driving (no reason for premature wear on the tranny for stoplight traffic).

I'm impressed. Thanks to John and the gang at AFP for the help!

Now we see if we can decrease the sixty-foots to get ready for the 11-second slip.

Padre

2010 4 DW · 05-27-2011, 05:34 PM

Good luck!

05-25-2011, 04:54 PM	#128
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Update from APF: the Meziere WP329N does not fit the L99 because of the VVT. http://www.meziere.com/ps-1507-1520-wp329n.aspx This water pump model features: . Fits 2010 and later Camaro's with GM LS-3 and L99 engines Jon@APF called Meziere and the Meziere guy said, "oops, guess we didn't test it on an L99." Anyone want an opened but unused Meziere Electric Water Pump for a Camaro LS3? This is why I'm glad I had it at the shop rather than all opened up in my backyard when this was discovered. I'd be really pissed then. As it is, I'm just . Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

05-25-2011, 07:17 PM	#130
Doc Dances With Mustangs Drives: 2010 1SS/RS MT Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 3,819 View My Garage	Hmmm...wasn't planning on doing this so soon. What color is it? What are you asking for it? __________________ Blue Angel is here!! 1SS/RS LS3 M6 IBM

05-25-2011, 08:43 PM	#132
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Wow! Almost 900 bucks for an electric water pump! Damn! That's high as giraffe ass! I never thought that it would cost near that! Anyway...what makes it not fit? Aren't the engines the same externally? I'm anxious to know the difference. __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

05-26-2011, 03:44 PM	#137
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	BMR 1" Lowering Springs Installed. Thanks John! Can't wait to pick it up. Padre Attached Images __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919 Last edited by Padre; 05-26-2011 at 06:18 PM.

05-26-2011, 05:53 PM	#138
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Just a comparison: __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

05-25-2011, 08:54 PM	#133
John@APF Drives: Very Slow... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canton, Ga Posts: 85	It's the extra thickness of the timing cover. It would work on LS3 no problem. I did a little measuring (with my highly calibrated eyeball) and it might could work with 1" or so spacers, I might do a little research with a block in the engine room and talk to Meziere about it... Padre, sending you some pics shortly.

05-27-2011, 03:52 PM	#139
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Picked it up today. Going racing tonight at an 1/8th mile strip, Brainerd Optimist. Two things: dayum it looks sharp lowered 1". Harder to get on my trailer, but dayum. Also, with the 3.45 gears, the 3200 TC, the lowering springs, and the front and rear sway bars, it is a different car, order of magnitude better. With just the 3200 TC, it was sluggish around town. Now it is tight. And that's keeping the stock tranny tune for daily driving (no reason for premature wear on the tranny for stoplight traffic). I'm impressed. Thanks to John and the gang at AFP for the help! Now we see if we can decrease the sixty-foots to get ready for the 11-second slip. Padre Attached Images __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

05-27-2011, 05:34 PM	#140
2010 4 DW Account Suspended Drives: White 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 672	Good luck!

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