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Old 05-01-2011, 10:13 AM   #211
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It was the federal regulations, but not sure if it was the brightness or lack there of, or which, but it was indeed because of regulations.
Actually, it was my understanding that they scrapped the afterburners because they took up too much trunk space. Brightness can always be tweaked by using stronger or weaker bulbs, but in order to achieve the depth effect present in the concept Camaro they had massively deep cans for the tail light assemblies that stuck far into the already tiny trunk opening, so for practicality's sake they were scrapped rather than attempting to get the look with a smaller housing.

I can't say for sure that was the real reason but I seem to remember that being the reason given to us on the forums by someone at GM back when the production version was revealed.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:15 AM   #212
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Actually, it was my understanding that they scrapped the afterburners because they took up too much trunk space. Brightness can always be tweaked by using stronger or weaker bulbs, but in order to achieve the depth effect present in the concept Camaro they had massively deep cans for the tail light assemblies that stuck far into the already tiny trunk opening, so for practicality's sake they were scrapped rather than attempting to get the look with a smaller housing.

I can't say for sure that was the real reason but I seem to remember that being the reason given to us on the forums by someone at GM back when the production version was revealed.
As tony said to me, the stronger or brighter bulbs used, the lesser of the effect of the afterburner.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:33 AM   #213
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As tony said to me, the stronger or brighter bulbs used, the lesser of the effect of the afterburner.
Not trying to start a war but I don't agree with that statement. you need the right amount of light and that my be a stronger or brighter bulb.

If its to week an amount of light you will know it as soon as your rear ended.

But let me say Tone will get it right he all ways does.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:37 AM   #214
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Not trying to start a war but I don't agree with that statement. you need the right amount of light and that my be a stronger or brighter bulb.

If its to week an amount of light you will know it as soon as your rear ended.

But let me say Tone will get it right he all ways does.
I think what he means is that too bright a bulb takes away the afterburner effect, which is true, if you're trying to modify the existing housing. A housing built specifically for the effect would have the proper light sealing in place however. Cost was also an issue I believe.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:00 PM   #215
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Not trying to start a war but I don't agree with that statement. you need the right amount of light and that my be a stronger or brighter bulb.

If its to week an amount of light you will know it as soon as your rear ended.

But let me say Tone will get it right he all ways does.
whoa goodlookin tail right there.. tho am not a fan of the dark spot on the left
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That is to show you a weak bulb to a stronger one, more light.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:12 PM   #217
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I think what he means is that too bright a bulb takes away the afterburner effect, which is true, if you're trying to modify the existing housing. A housing built specifically for the effect would have the proper light sealing in place however. Cost was also an issue I believe.
Right. if the afterburner liight output is too great, it's going to end up lighting up the whole thing.

Ofer, the example you shows is good, what i was saying was that if the right side was made brighter, it would end up oversshining the center portion, if that makes sense
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:02 PM   #218
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Actually, it was my understanding that they scrapped the afterburners because they took up too much trunk space. Brightness can always be tweaked by using stronger or weaker bulbs, but in order to achieve the depth effect present in the concept Camaro they had massively deep cans for the tail light assemblies that stuck far into the already tiny trunk opening, so for practicality's sake they were scrapped rather than attempting to get the look with a smaller housing.

I can't say for sure that was the real reason but I seem to remember that being the reason given to us on the forums by someone at GM back when the production version was revealed.
I still don't understand why they didn't just incorporate the lights into the trunk lid. Plenty of cars have lights that raise and lower with the trunk and are no worse for wear... Had they gone that route, not only could they have had the necessary depth to pull of the look properly, but it also would have alleviated the painfully small trunk opening that is currently caused by the tail light cans. Some days I wish I could just be standing in the design/engineering room at GM and just smack somebody when they do stupid stuff like this.
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Old 05-01-2011, 07:58 PM   #219
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I still don't understand why they didn't just incorporate the lights into the trunk lid. Plenty of cars have lights that raise and lower with the trunk and are no worse for wear... Had they gone that route, not only could they have had the necessary depth to pull of the look properly, but it also would have alleviated the painfully small trunk opening that is currently caused by the tail light cans. Some days I wish I could just be standing in the design/engineering room at GM and just smack somebody when they do stupid stuff like this.
First off, how do you incorporate the outside set of light into the deck lid and keep the current design?

Second, adding the lights and cans to the deck lid creates other issues too.

Third, if your going to smack someone you can start with me. I work for GM helping to manufacture the sheet metal parts that create this GREAT CAMARO.

There are many reasons the lights are where they are at. Primary reason is for design intent.
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The original concept design could have been done, but cost and practicality got in the way. Hate it when that happens.....
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:16 PM   #221
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these lights just moved up to the top of my mod list thanks to that spy shot
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concept afterburners dead ?
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Seemed like it there for a while. Not so much anymore, thankfully.
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First off, how do you incorporate the outside set of light into the deck lid and keep the current design?

Second, adding the lights and cans to the deck lid creates other issues too.

Third, if your going to smack someone you can start with me. I work for GM helping to manufacture the sheet metal parts that create this GREAT CAMARO.

There are many reasons the lights are where they are at. Primary reason is for design intent.

Hey, its always good to hear from someone on the 'inside'... btw, do you have any insight on the concept afterburners and why they were left off the production cars? Just curious...
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