I make 535 rwhp and my target is 650 rwhp, what to add? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

T-r3x · 03-15-2014, 09:30 AM

Hey guys!
I'm planning to reach my next goal! 650 rwhp!
Currently my ls3 makes 535 rwhp with these mods:

Magnuson supercharger (stock pulley)
1-7/8 American Racing Headers (long) + off road pipes
CAI intake
ZL1 fuel pump
Borla s-type 2.5" cat-back
McLeod RST clutch

What is the best mods that will let me reach my goal saaaaaaaafely with almost 0 issues?
Should I add a cam or a stroker or what and what's the best brand to buy from?
Should I upgrade the entire fuel system including injectors or do you think that BAP will be enough?
Should I upgrade the cylinder heads?

I know that's a lot of questions but I need your experience

Thanks all!

TheMeat · 03-15-2014, 10:04 AM

Pulley down and larger injectors.

LS7 427 · 03-15-2014, 10:25 AM

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=What is the best mods that will let me reach my goal saaaaaaaafely with almost 0 issues?

You'll need to pulley down, address fuel, add a cam and if I use the criteria stated above, fully forged internals.

Bryan

10aSSee D · 03-15-2014, 10:34 AM

You will for sure need a cam and smaller pulley. Don't forget about fuel or you won't last long. I would go ID850's and dual pumps.

alssiri · 03-15-2014, 10:36 AM

Experets will chime in but this is from my experience.
Rear OD Cog so you won't run in to slippage issues.
Cam & heads would be great.
ZL1 pump with BAP may be good but to be safe get a dual pump setup + injectors off course .
Don't forget the heat soak issue either with SuperChiller or Meth.

Ahmad

2010SSRSM6 · 03-16-2014, 06:19 AM

Comp Cam w/BTR dual springs, OD rear cogs, 3.6" pulley and ADM's FPCM for your ZL1 pump. Depending on the dyno and what type of fuel you can get octane wise, you will be there.

Find a tuner that knows how to really tune and have them set the cam profile.

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old motorhead · 03-16-2014, 10:28 AM

To hit 650 wheel, you need a blower cam and overdrive rear pulleys. Your 3.8" front pulley should do fine. You don't have to go apeshit with the cam. Something like this http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...1#.UyXBr7lOU5s would be great for a camshaft. All this is assuming you have LT headers and a good exhaust. Also assuming you have proper injectors and the fueling system to feed them.

T-r3x · 03-16-2014, 02:27 PM

Thanks guys
Any more ideas?

SmokedSS · 03-16-2014, 03:41 PM

I reached 650 rwhp with an auto with
Maggie OD cog, 3.4 front (12psi)
Night Fury cam, LPE twin, 850 ID's, LT's

old motorhead · 03-16-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by T-r3x

Thanks guys
Any more ideas?

Not sure what else you're looking for. The recipe is pretty clear. SmokedSS's version is a little more than needed because he has an A6. His would be closer to 700 with an M6.

Chevy69er · 03-16-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by T-r3x

Thanks guys
Any more ideas?

About the same setup. OD cogs and 3.6pulley, kooks LT, Rotofab intake, ID850, ZL1 fuel pump and a great tune and youll be @ 650 RWH. That's my setup and than the torque pretty much systematically took out clutch, driveline, axles ect. Plan on investing your cam $$$ into drivetrain!

T-r3x · 03-17-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokedSS

I reached 650 rwhp with an auto with
Maggie OD cog, 3.4 front (12psi)
Night Fury cam, LPE twin, 850 ID's, LT's

Can your internals handle this much power?

600hp-lpe · 03-18-2014, 08:50 AM

Make sure you upgrade the axles - or the entire rear end.

Driveshaft probably isn't too far out as well.

extra power will break the stock CV joints on the axles.

grocerygetter · 03-18-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

Comp Cam w/BTR dual springs, OD rear cogs, 3.6" pulley and ADM's FPCM for your ZL1 pump. Depending on the dyno and what type of fuel you can get octane wise, you will be there.

Find a tuner that knows how to really tune and have them set the cam profile.

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03-15-2014, 09:30 AM	#1
T-r3x Drives: 2010 camaro ss ( LS3 ) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ksa Posts: 150	I make 535 rwhp and my target is 650 rwhp, what to add? Hey guys! I'm planning to reach my next goal! 650 rwhp! Currently my ls3 makes 535 rwhp with these mods: Magnuson supercharger (stock pulley) 1-7/8 American Racing Headers (long) + off road pipes CAI intake ZL1 fuel pump Borla s-type 2.5" cat-back McLeod RST clutch What is the best mods that will let me reach my goal saaaaaaaafely with almost 0 issues? Should I add a cam or a stroker or what and what's the best brand to buy from? Should I upgrade the entire fuel system including injectors or do you think that BAP will be enough? Should I upgrade the cylinder heads? I know that's a lot of questions but I need your experience Thanks all!

03-15-2014, 10:04 AM	#2
TheMeat Drives: 1973 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 114	Pulley down and larger injectors. __________________ 73 Camaro, 6.0 LS, Billet S485, E85, 4L80E.

03-15-2014, 10:34 AM	#4
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	You will for sure need a cam and smaller pulley. Don't forget about fuel or you won't last long. I would go ID850's and dual pumps. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

03-15-2014, 10:36 AM	#5
alssiri Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,250	Experets will chime in but this is from my experience. Rear OD Cog so you won't run in to slippage issues. Cam & heads would be great. ZL1 pump with BAP may be good but to be safe get a dual pump setup + injectors off course . Don't forget the heat soak issue either with SuperChiller or Meth. Ahmad __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10 SW (SOLD) Whipple 2.9 with 3.2 Pulley, Weapon-X Stage 3 Cam, FIICHILLER ,LG Motorsports LT, Borla S type, ROTFAB Big Gulp, Big 3 Reservoir Glassskinz rear window valance . 2012 ZL1 A6 (SOLD) Forged 376 CI, LSA HeartBeat, Mast Medium Bore Heads & JDP ZLR Cam, ARH LT , MagnaFlow Resonated X + Borla Atak Catback, ADM 102mm Snout, CAI, NW102MM TB, ID850, Fore Triple Fuel Pump, MSD Wire's, Moroso CC. Alky Control, FIICHILLER.

03-16-2014, 06:19 AM	#6
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,558 View My Garage	Comp Cam w/BTR dual springs, OD rear cogs, 3.6" pulley and ADM's FPCM for your ZL1 pump. Depending on the dyno and what type of fuel you can get octane wise, you will be there. Find a tuner that knows how to really tune and have them set the cam profile. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

03-16-2014, 10:28 AM	#7
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	To hit 650 wheel, you need a blower cam and overdrive rear pulleys. Your 3.8" front pulley should do fine. You don't have to go apeshit with the cam. Something like this http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...1#.UyXBr7lOU5s would be great for a camshaft. All this is assuming you have LT headers and a good exhaust. Also assuming you have proper injectors and the fueling system to feed them.

03-16-2014, 02:27 PM	#8
T-r3x Drives: 2010 camaro ss ( LS3 ) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ksa Posts: 150	Thanks guys Any more ideas?

03-16-2014, 03:41 PM	#9
SmokedSS Guest Drives: 2011 2SS / RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Moving On Posts: 464 View My Garage	I reached 650 rwhp with an auto with Maggie OD cog, 3.4 front (12psi) Night Fury cam, LPE twin, 850 ID's, LT's

03-18-2014, 08:50 AM	#13
600hp-lpe Drives: 2010 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NH Posts: 4,788	Make sure you upgrade the axles - or the entire rear end. Driveshaft probably isn't too far out as well. extra power will break the stock CV joints on the axles.