Who would be interested in a set of axles stronger than the stock Diff for less - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Driveshaftshop · 12-09-2011, 05:46 AM

As you know we here at DSS are always looking to better the drivetrain products we sell, recently we came the conclusion that making a set of 1400Hp axles for the stock diff that has issues after the 600 to 700Hp range might be a little over kill. What were considering doing is making a set of direct bolt in axles for the cars but with a few changes to not only make it less expensive but better suited for a daily driver that See's track time on the weekends.

Starting with the outer CV we will be going back to a 108mm bolt on style but have re-engineered it to clear the bolts and boot on the upper control arm. The CV's will have a 4130 Chromoly cage and special made harder inner Races to ensure great life of the joint. We will be using our high grade grease to top the build. We also have our powder-coating system up and running so the entire set will coated and look like new for years to come.

Now where this will be different and help the fast street car is in the fact that if were limited by the Hp of the diff we can bring back the Anti-
wheel hop design but we will be using the 300 material bars we have been using on the 1400hp axle.this is the same material we have been getting from the mill in Sweden (not to be mistaken with 4340), But this would be a 28 spline version capable of an easy 1000Hp.

Now material and other cost have gone up this year and as much as we would hate to increase prices the cost of the 1400hp axles will be going up 100.00 after the 1st of the year but the good news is that this new 1000HP axle set will be coming out at a list price between 1149.99 and 1199.99 depending demand. I'm putting this pole up to see if the community is interested in having us make a set of axles that is not only less expensive but also better suited for the cars with Stock Differentials.

This is the "test" set we made and mocked up on our cradle on the testing bench.

Hendrix-Engineering · 12-09-2011, 09:34 AM

100% YES!!! Thanks for all your hard work Frank!

bhall82 · 12-09-2011, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

100% YES!!! Thanks for all your hard work Frank!

THIS. great job Frank.

mikepage0007 · 12-09-2011, 11:31 AM

looks good frank, way to give others another option..

*GTAHVIT* · 12-09-2011, 11:35 AM

Frank,

It was great talking with you guys at PRI.

I'm really interested in these. I vote yes.

Is this what you were talking about for that Stage 1 Hammerhead setup?

TCAT · 12-09-2011, 11:40 AM

This would be perfect, as I don't have plans any time soon on going beyond 700rwhp.

LSX-80MM · 12-09-2011, 12:00 PM

Yes Yes Yes 90 percent of customers,All they'll ever need...Just simply greating marketing on your behalf,And we appreciate it

TCAT · 12-09-2011, 12:04 PM

How much rwhp/rwtq are the stock axles rated at anyhow?? I heard people were breaking them with stock power. I'll be hovering around 650rwhp likely for a while and even these 1000rwhp axles will be PLENTY for me.

bhall82 · 12-09-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCAT

How much rwhp/rwtq are the stock axles rated at anyhow?? I heard people were breaking them with stock power. I'll be hovering around 650rwhp likely for a while and even these 1000rwhp axles will be PLENTY for me.

600 is kinda the magic number for about everything on these cars. If you're at 650ish. You're flirting with it. It really depends on your driving style. If the car is raced (on a track of course) or not I think will be the deciding factor.

TCAT · 12-09-2011, 12:49 PM

Thanks, thats the feeling I have been getting just by reading these forums. The "600" mark is playing with fire. Right now, I'm pushing in the low 500's, but will be getting the car re-tuned likely with high flow cats and slight boost increase to be around the 600-650rwhp range. So, these axels would be ideal instead of going for the balls to the wall 1400rwhp axels. This car will rarely be races though, and it's just a fun weekend warrior car. Occasionally (maybe 1-2x per year), it may see the quarter mile track.

bhall82 · 12-09-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCAT

Thanks, thats the feeling I have been getting just by reading these forums. The "600" mark is playing with fire. Right now, I'm pushing in the low 500's, but will be getting the car re-tuned likely with high flow cats and slight boost increase to be around the 600-650rwhp range. So, these axels would be ideal instead of going for the balls to the wall 1400rwhp axels. This car will rarely be races though, and it's just a fun weekend warrior car. Occasionally (maybe 1-2x per year), it may see the quarter mile track.

Yes sir. These would be perfect for that. That is one the main reasons the guys at DSS made these. Not everyone needs or will ever see the 1400hp mark or close to it. So Frank once again stepped up to the plate and meet the demads of his consumers. A great axle to withstand some serious power at a fraction of the cost.

TCAT · 12-09-2011, 01:40 PM

I agree, if these axles say roughly around a grand, I'll be interested for sure. Thanks Frank and DSS for all your hard work. I didn't want to get aftermarket axels because they were a lot of money (even though worth it for individuals pushing unbelievable amounts of power) for a product that would be overkill for my application. If the price is right, you'll have plenty of customers buying these axels.

jmart53 · 12-09-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCAT

I agree, if these axles say roughly around a grand, I'll be interested for sure. Thanks Frank and DSS for all your hard work. I didn't want to get aftermarket axels because they were a lot of money (even though worth it for individuals pushing unbelievable amounts of power) for a product that would be overkill for my application. If the price is right, you'll have plenty of customers buying these axels.

+1

Camarowguy · 12-09-2011, 02:24 PM

I'd agree not may people need/want 1400hp axles. I see the sales for those drastically declining and a buttload of sales for a more affordable 1000hp axle. Just my .02

View Poll Results: Would you like to see DSS manufacture this part
Yes i would	151	81.18%
No i don't think is necessary	3	1.61%
I would still buy the 1400Hp axles anyway	17	9.14%
I'm undecided and would like to see results of the axles.	15	8.06%
Voters: 186. You may not vote on this poll

12-09-2011, 05:46 AM	#1
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	Who would be interested in a set of axles stronger than the stock Diff for less As you know we here at DSS are always looking to better the drivetrain products we sell, recently we came the conclusion that making a set of 1400Hp axles for the stock diff that has issues after the 600 to 700Hp range might be a little over kill. What were considering doing is making a set of direct bolt in axles for the cars but with a few changes to not only make it less expensive but better suited for a daily driver that See's track time on the weekends. Starting with the outer CV we will be going back to a 108mm bolt on style but have re-engineered it to clear the bolts and boot on the upper control arm. The CV's will have a 4130 Chromoly cage and special made harder inner Races to ensure great life of the joint. We will be using our high grade grease to top the build. We also have our powder-coating system up and running so the entire set will coated and look like new for years to come. Now where this will be different and help the fast street car is in the fact that if were limited by the Hp of the diff we can bring back the Anti- wheel hop design but we will be using the 300 material bars we have been using on the 1400hp axle.this is the same material we have been getting from the mill in Sweden (not to be mistaken with 4340), But this would be a 28 spline version capable of an easy 1000Hp. Now material and other cost have gone up this year and as much as we would hate to increase prices the cost of the 1400hp axles will be going up 100.00 after the 1st of the year but the good news is that this new 1000HP axle set will be coming out at a list price between 1149.99 and 1199.99 depending demand. I'm putting this pole up to see if the community is interested in having us make a set of axles that is not only less expensive but also better suited for the cars with Stock Differentials. This is the "test" set we made and mocked up on our cradle on the testing bench.

12-09-2011, 11:31 AM	#4
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,273	looks good frank, way to give others another option.. __________________

12-09-2011, 11:35 AM	#5
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Frank, It was great talking with you guys at PRI. I'm really interested in these. I vote yes. Is this what you were talking about for that Stage 1 Hammerhead setup? __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

12-09-2011, 12:00 PM	#7
LSX-80MM Ghostly Unknown Drives: Silver Ice 2010 SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Glen St Mary,Fla. Posts: 483	Yes Yes Yes 90 percent of customers,All they'll ever need...Just simply greating marketing on your behalf,And we appreciate it __________________ TS416,GMPPLSX-LS3 6 Bolt Heads,Custom 80mmComp Turbo,ID850 Injectors, Lonnies Twin Pump Setup,Level 3 4L80E,DSS,3in Magnaflow Exhaust,CoolingMist Meth,RX Dual Catch Can,InnovateWB,Aeroforce Interceptor,AEM Truboost Controller,matte black CF5 Forgestars.700rwhp/712rwtrq

12-09-2011, 09:34 AM	#2
Hendrix-Engineering Account Suspended Drives: First 9 inch-12 bolt IRS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 1,835	100% YES!!! Thanks for all your hard work Frank!

12-09-2011, 11:40 AM	#6
TCAT Drives: Has Wheels Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Posts: 5,553	This would be perfect, as I don't have plans any time soon on going beyond 700rwhp.

12-09-2011, 12:04 PM	#8
TCAT Drives: Has Wheels Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Posts: 5,553	How much rwhp/rwtq are the stock axles rated at anyhow?? I heard people were breaking them with stock power. I'll be hovering around 650rwhp likely for a while and even these 1000rwhp axles will be PLENTY for me.

12-09-2011, 12:49 PM	#10
TCAT Drives: Has Wheels Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Posts: 5,553	Thanks, thats the feeling I have been getting just by reading these forums. The "600" mark is playing with fire. Right now, I'm pushing in the low 500's, but will be getting the car re-tuned likely with high flow cats and slight boost increase to be around the 600-650rwhp range. So, these axels would be ideal instead of going for the balls to the wall 1400rwhp axels. This car will rarely be races though, and it's just a fun weekend warrior car. Occasionally (maybe 1-2x per year), it may see the quarter mile track.

12-09-2011, 01:40 PM	#12
TCAT Drives: Has Wheels Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Posts: 5,553	I agree, if these axles say roughly around a grand, I'll be interested for sure. Thanks Frank and DSS for all your hard work. I didn't want to get aftermarket axels because they were a lot of money (even though worth it for individuals pushing unbelievable amounts of power) for a product that would be overkill for my application. If the price is right, you'll have plenty of customers buying these axels.

12-09-2011, 02:24 PM	#14
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	I'd agree not may people need/want 1400hp axles. I see the sales for those drastically declining and a buttload of sales for a more affordable 1000hp axle. Just my .02 __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
First Ever DOUBLE DIN (monitor / screen) NO LONGER AVAILABLE****	Hess RS	Audio, Video, Bluetooth, Navigation, Radar, Electronics Forum	992	06-12-2013 11:13 PM
FS: Set of Stock OEM Axles	Simster	Transmission / Driveline	5	05-15-2011 06:18 PM
SS rear diff, stock and HP axles, and Drive shaft for sale	600hp-lpe	Transmission / Driveline	4	04-13-2011 01:05 PM
Over 230 Satisfied 2010 Camaro Customers! Paddock Chevrolet has 40 in stock NOW	camarojoe	Dealer Camaros for Sale	2	05-24-2010 05:58 PM
ALL Our Camaros are GM Prefer Pricing (old Supplier Pricing) at MacMulkin Chevrolet!	MacMulkin	Dealer Camaros for Sale	0	01-20-2010 06:40 PM