LMR CAI vs Cold Air Induction Inc TEST with RESULTS!! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Late Model Racecraft · 01-12-2010, 10:19 AM

We were the first to market a Cold Air Induction system for the 2010 camaro with a few revisions being made over time and I always stated in my threads that I would put our system up against any. Well, awhile back someone named Janetty Racing had a cold air induction test with all of the cold air induction systems on the market today for the 2010 Camaro. I was one of the first to jump on it becauase I know how well my product performs. Well the sales of my Cold Air Induction system have dropped after the test becauase he claimed he only saw a 8hp increase and that a company called Cold Air Indcution Inc made 13hp. I knew something was up becauase we have literally installed over 100 systems here in house and have not seen less than 12hp and as much as 28hp gains from just bolting on our system with no tuning.

Yesterday, a car came to our shop with a Cold Air Induction Inc system on it so I figured here is my chance to see how great this system is. I asked the customer if it was ok to put his car on the dyno and make three back to back pulls then pull off the CAI Inc system and install our LMR CAI system and make another three back to back pulls to see the outcome with NO tuning. I told the customer I was expecting pretty close results and he stated that he read on camaro5 that the CAI Inc system was far superior than ours and was anxious to see the results.

I was very pleased, our system made 10rwhp and 15rwtq MORE than the CAI Inc system. Now I am not bashing Cold Air Induction Inc becauase they do have a very nice system, I just new the test that Janetty racing preformed was very skeptical. I am not saying he did anything wrong but when doing a test like this you have to factor in alot of variables such as coolant temp, air intake temp, humidity, etc etc. I just now read through his test and saw he tested our unit a week before the others.

If some of you are skeptical on my test, dont worry, GM High Tech Magazine will be doing a very similar test in the very near future for you guys to read about. Be looking for the results to come out in the next few months. Also, I am sure the owner of the car and a couple other camaro5 members that saw this take place yesterday in person will chime in to prove there were no tricks done.

If anyone has any questions regarding our Cold Air Induction System please feel free to shoot me an email or just give me a call at the shop.

Here is the video and some pictures.

After the test.....

Video:

8ty8 ls1 · 01-12-2010, 10:24 AM

i'd like to see the two dyno graphs of each CAI run.

CAI Inc · 01-12-2010, 10:48 AM

lol. This is why independent testing is so important.

FTI-EDC · 01-12-2010, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAI Inc

lol. This is why independent testing is so important.

THAT is a bit of an understatement...

/end thread

Snake Slayer · 01-12-2010, 11:28 AM

Ok I'll bite I recently purchased a CAI kit due to the fact that I personally believe a fully sealed unit will perform better here in Florida. I also so saw huge gains on my C6 when going from a Halltech Killer Bee to a sealed Bee Hive unit. I also feel that most kits will perform within a few HP of each other. My purchasing decision was based on quality of materials, IAT temps and fuel trims. That being said could, you please let us know what seperates your product from CAI's or any of the others? What is it in your design that allows you to see 12-28 hp more than the others? Also your statement below might cause some folks to question your test results as you have a reason to claim more HP than CAI due to your sales dropping off.
[COLOR="Red"]Well the sales of my Cold Air Induction system have dropped after the test becauase he claimed he only saw a 8hp increase and that a company called Cold Air Indcution Inc made 13hp. I knew something was up becauase we have literally installed over 100 systems here in house and have not seen less than 12hp and as much as 28hp gains from just bolting on our system with no tuning[/COLOR].

Not trying to flame you but when making these claims please provide the buying public with as many details as possible to support your claims.

madmaxx18 · 01-12-2010, 11:28 AM

Hey to the guy who has the cai inc kit could you sell me it since you don't want it anymore. I would be more than happy to take it off your hands could you pm me to let me know. I agree a 100% independent testing is much more believable than companies testing each other.

tples69 · 01-12-2010, 11:51 AM

I too would be interested in the CAI brand CAI. PM me if it's available.

Iwantone2 · 01-12-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmaxx18

Hey to the guy who has the cai inc kit could you sell me it since you don't want it anymore. I would be more than happy to take it off your hands could you pm me to let me know. I agree a 100% independent testing is much more believable than companies testing each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tples69

I too would be interested in the CAI brand CAI. PM me if it's available.

I think you guys are not giving the OP the response he was seeking...

On the other hand,

I don't know what else to say and I don't want to take any sides, so I'll just sit back and enjoy

hypurone · 01-12-2010, 12:20 PM

He posted over on MC as well and here was my reply:

Quote:

I see that you ran the test with the hood open vs closed as Ted did. No offense but I think a closed hood test is more accurate as we don't drive around with the hoods open. I bet if the top was opened on the C.A.I unit it would have been a wash... just sayin.

bobby35ny · 01-12-2010, 12:31 PM

I have a Vararam so I don't have a horse in this race.

How can an "Independent Test" be valid if a product was tested a week earlier and then compared to all the ones done on the same day?

=bobby

CAI Inc · 01-12-2010, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

I have a Vararam so I don't have a horse in this race.

How can an "Independent Test" be valid if a product was tested a week earlier and then compared to all the ones done on the same day?

=bobby

It was tested the same day as the rest.

madmaxx18 · 01-12-2010, 01:35 PM

Man I was being serious about getting the guys cai not as a joke I really want it. At least send me a pm or just say your keeping it to. I am starting to wonder if it is a bunch of B.S. I don't care what anyone says all the products where tested the same day and I don't think it was hood open.

JANNETTYRACING · 01-12-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby35ny

How can an "Independent Test" be valid if a product was tested a week earlier and then compared to all the ones done on the same day?

=bobby

Quote:

I just now read through his test and saw he tested our unit a week before the others.

I assure you all tests were conducted on the same day on the same car in the same temp, with the same oil and water temps, clearing the computer fuel trims on every test, and a 10 mile drive cycle was done before any dyno pulls to let the computer learn the fuel trims for each Cold Air Kit, and YES THE HOOD WAS SHUT.

The Whole Test Was Broadcast Live for All To See.

Ted.

JANNETTYRACING · 01-12-2010, 02:50 PM

I will also Add, I am sorry your Sales have Fallen, Wether it be the economy or the test results who knows, but I can only report what the equipment records.

I have Nothing to gain by falsifying any data but I have alot to lose if People Can't trust me.

Ted.

01-12-2010, 10:24 AM	#2
8ty8 ls1 Resident Engineer Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 1988 GMC S-15 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 766	i'd like to see the two dyno graphs of each CAI run. __________________ 12.68 @ 109: LSR cai, Borla S-type axle-back, Tunes

01-12-2010, 12:31 PM	#10
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	I have a Vararam so I don't have a horse in this race. How can an "Independent Test" be valid if a product was tested a week earlier and then compared to all the ones done on the same day? =bobby __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

01-12-2010, 02:50 PM	#14
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,223	I will also Add, I am sorry your Sales have Fallen, Wether it be the economy or the test results who knows, but I can only report what the equipment records. I have Nothing to gain by falsifying any data but I have alot to lose if People Can't trust me. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

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01-12-2010, 10:48 AM	#3
CAI Inc 1 Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MI Posts: 121	lol. This is why independent testing is so important.

01-12-2010, 11:28 AM	#5
Snake Slayer Drives: Awaiting 2014 C7 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 902	Ok I'll bite I recently purchased a CAI kit due to the fact that I personally believe a fully sealed unit will perform better here in Florida. I also so saw huge gains on my C6 when going from a Halltech Killer Bee to a sealed Bee Hive unit. I also feel that most kits will perform within a few HP of each other. My purchasing decision was based on quality of materials, IAT temps and fuel trims. That being said could, you please let us know what seperates your product from CAI's or any of the others? What is it in your design that allows you to see 12-28 hp more than the others? Also your statement below might cause some folks to question your test results as you have a reason to claim more HP than CAI due to your sales dropping off. [COLOR="Red"]Well the sales of my Cold Air Induction system have dropped after the test becauase he claimed he only saw a 8hp increase and that a company called Cold Air Indcution Inc made 13hp. I knew something was up becauase we have literally installed over 100 systems here in house and have not seen less than 12hp and as much as 28hp gains from just bolting on our system with no tuning[/COLOR]. Not trying to flame you but when making these claims please provide the buying public with as many details as possible to support your claims.

01-12-2010, 11:28 AM	#6
madmaxx18 Drives: 07_tundra/08_zo6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wichita falls, tx Posts: 722	Hey to the guy who has the cai inc kit could you sell me it since you don't want it anymore. I would be more than happy to take it off your hands could you pm me to let me know. I agree a 100% independent testing is much more believable than companies testing each other.

01-12-2010, 11:51 AM	#7
tples69 Blaq Out Drives: Hummer H2, 2010 Camaro RS/2SS Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Itasca, IL Posts: 234 View My Garage	I too would be interested in the CAI brand CAI. PM me if it's available.

01-12-2010, 01:35 PM	#12
madmaxx18 Drives: 07_tundra/08_zo6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wichita falls, tx Posts: 722	Man I was being serious about getting the guys cai not as a joke I really want it. At least send me a pm or just say your keeping it to. I am starting to wonder if it is a bunch of B.S. I don't care what anyone says all the products where tested the same day and I don't think it was hood open.