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shu92870 · 11-01-2021, 10:12 PM

OK so im going through my brake system.

I finally bought track pads and using the OEM Brembo Ferodo HP pads for street.
All new fluid after boiling fluid last track day.

Driver front inside bleeder snapped off real quick. Its not leaking.

Question is this.

Is it OK to just use the outer bleeder to fully bleed?

Thats what i did and got foam and burn color fluid out.

Just want your thoughts of if its safe for street use untill i can pull that caliper off to backout the broken bleeder.

larry_g · 11-01-2021, 10:36 PM

Given how crappy you say the fluid is, you won't get it out of that side and could have issues. That said, as long as you are taking it easy on the street, it should be ok temporarily. Good luck getting it out, I ended up replacing a caliper because of a broken bleeder.

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KaBoom1701 · 11-01-2021, 11:58 PM

This cost me a $1000 on my ZL1 when it snapped off and I couldn't back out the bleeder screw......

shu92870 · 11-02-2021, 01:39 AM

Will i NOT be able to suck out fluid all the way through? Push all the fluid out with standard bleed way with copilot pushing brake pedal as i loosen outside bleeder valve?

I have another set of front Calipers.

But i need to do a piston dust coverchange. I need to swap out bad install new. Hot track brakes sortah melted the piston dust covers. Ill have to look into how difficult it is to upgrade them.

George-CZ · 11-02-2021, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

This cost me a $1000 on my ZL1 when it snapped off and I couldn't back out the bleeder screw......

1000 $ ???

I pulled out a few broken bleeds and just did it for "thank you".
And it never took me more than 10 minutes. when I had the brakes ready on the table.

larry_g · 11-02-2021, 05:50 AM

It just won't get out the fluid from the broken side of the caliper, so you'll get about 60% swapped out. I wouldn't run it like that on the track, but street should be ok.

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CamaroCracka · 11-02-2021, 09:14 AM

Worst case on the repair if the bleeder just won't come out would be to drill, tap and put in something like Wilwood 220-0627 Brake Bleeder

Hopefully it will come out with an easy out.

You could remove the caliper and get all the fluid out that way and then bleed it, but I'm with Larry. Ok for daily driving but would not want track it like that.

shu92870 · 11-02-2021, 12:38 PM

Alright.

I’ll definitely take off caliper to get the bottom bleeder part out.

Hopefully it comes out easily.

Rebuild piston dust cover kit for other set of calipers aren’t cheap. I’m getting $45 a caliper?

Thanks for all your guys input.

CamaroCracka · 11-03-2021, 08:49 AM

Some guys don't replace those dust covers because they just keep melting if you track. Even ZL1 brakes melt the dust covers.

shu92870 · 11-03-2021, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

Some guys don't replace those dust covers because they just keep melting if you track. Even ZL1 brakes melt the dust covers.

But if the dust covers are melting what about the seal ring inside?

I figured if I’m boiling the brake fluid maybe both dust covers n rings aren’t in the best shape?

CamaroCracka · 11-03-2021, 02:21 PM

My guess is it will make you have to change fluid more often and maybe it reduces your rebuild interval, but they don't make a Teflon dust covers and they melt every time you go to a road course that requires a lot of braking, especially if you are running SS brakes. I ended up upgrading to the ZL1 fronts. Ducting might help some.

shu92870 · 11-03-2021, 02:37 PM

Yeah ive got ducts to install.
Ive been looking at upgrading to
6 piston front calipers.
Budget just not there yet.
Probably time for another track day coaching session.

KaBoom1701 · 11-03-2021, 05:42 PM

Never melted on my ZL1 6 pison brembos when I tracked.

Alum calipers with steel bleeders are a PITA.

olblue75 · 11-03-2021, 09:40 PM

There’s a set on Camaro6 for sale at a good price.

11-01-2021, 10:12 PM	#1
shu92870 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 196	Broken Bleeder OK so im going through my brake system. I finally bought track pads and using the OEM Brembo Ferodo HP pads for street. All new fluid after boiling fluid last track day. Driver front inside bleeder snapped off real quick. Its not leaking. Question is this. Is it OK to just use the outer bleeder to fully bleed? Thats what i did and got foam and burn color fluid out. Just want your thoughts of if its safe for street use untill i can pull that caliper off to backout the broken bleeder. Attached Images

11-01-2021, 10:36 PM	#2
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	Given how crappy you say the fluid is, you won't get it out of that side and could have issues. That said, as long as you are taking it easy on the street, it should be ok temporarily. Good luck getting it out, I ended up replacing a caliper because of a broken bleeder. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk __________________ 830 WHP 700 WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 13lbs Boost, Flex Fuel Tune by Blevins Tuning, LSA SBE, 3.5 GripTec, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, DSX Triple Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, NW 103mm TB, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ X-pipe to NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, MGW, Monster LT1-S, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

11-01-2021, 11:58 PM	#3
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	This cost me a $1000 on my ZL1 when it snapped off and I couldn't back out the bleeder screw...... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

11-02-2021, 01:39 AM	#4
shu92870 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 196	Will i NOT be able to suck out fluid all the way through? Push all the fluid out with standard bleed way with copilot pushing brake pedal as i loosen outside bleeder valve? I have another set of front Calipers. But i need to do a piston dust coverchange. I need to swap out bad install new. Hot track brakes sortah melted the piston dust covers. Ill have to look into how difficult it is to upgrade them. Attached Images

11-02-2021, 05:50 AM	#6
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	It just won't get out the fluid from the broken side of the caliper, so you'll get about 60% swapped out. I wouldn't run it like that on the track, but street should be ok. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk __________________ 830 WHP 700 WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 13lbs Boost, Flex Fuel Tune by Blevins Tuning, LSA SBE, 3.5 GripTec, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, DSX Triple Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, NW 103mm TB, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ X-pipe to NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, MGW, Monster LT1-S, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

11-02-2021, 09:14 AM	#7
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,736	Worst case on the repair if the bleeder just won't come out would be to drill, tap and put in something like Wilwood 220-0627 Brake Bleeder Hopefully it will come out with an easy out. You could remove the caliper and get all the fluid out that way and then bleed it, but I'm with Larry. Ok for daily driving but would not want track it like that. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

11-02-2021, 12:38 PM	#8
shu92870 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 196	Alright. I’ll definitely take off caliper to get the bottom bleeder part out. Hopefully it comes out easily. Rebuild piston dust cover kit for other set of calipers aren’t cheap. I’m getting $45 a caliper? Thanks for all your guys input.

11-03-2021, 08:49 AM	#9
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,736	Some guys don't replace those dust covers because they just keep melting if you track. Even ZL1 brakes melt the dust covers. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

11-03-2021, 02:21 PM	#11
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,736	My guess is it will make you have to change fluid more often and maybe it reduces your rebuild interval, but they don't make a Teflon dust covers and they melt every time you go to a road course that requires a lot of braking, especially if you are running SS brakes. I ended up upgrading to the ZL1 fronts. Ducting might help some. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

11-03-2021, 02:37 PM	#12
shu92870 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 196	Yeah ive got ducts to install. Ive been looking at upgrading to 6 piston front calipers. Budget just not there yet. Probably time for another track day coaching session.

11-03-2021, 05:42 PM	#13
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Never melted on my ZL1 6 pison brembos when I tracked. Alum calipers with steel bleeders are a PITA. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

11-03-2021, 09:40 PM	#14
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	There’s a set on Camaro6 for sale at a good price. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.