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sebi1990 · 10-23-2012, 12:14 PM

I've been reading the description and I was wondering if its realy warranty safe and can be restored so that the dealer will now be able to detect it?

http://autoagenda.com/2010-camaro-v8...e-next-day-air

Dznts · 10-23-2012, 12:16 PM

nope any tune will void the powertrain warranty!

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 10-23-2012, 12:16 PM

yes the dealer can detect it, as the PCM will record how many "flashes" have been done to it, so when your PCM says it has taken XX # of flashes but the GM system only shows that YY number have been done, you are then boned..

strych9 · 10-23-2012, 12:24 PM

Not according to Diablo:

sebi1990 · 10-23-2012, 12:27 PM

Yeah thats what I was looking at and them I'm like BS...(I'm not sure tho)...going to ask camaro family now

Thx for the help

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 10-23-2012, 12:35 PM

go search the corvette forums.. you will find out otherwise, hundreds of guys with voided warranties using a variety of hand held tunners including diablo (as well as others)

and for the record, I owned a Chrysler 300c, and I bought their dealer Tech Tool the Star Scan when I had the car.

I had a diablo for my Chrysler and I could very well see the counters everytime I flashed the vehicle be it, with the star scan or the diablo.

yes that was Chrysler and not GM, but not much of a difference.

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and my question to diablo is this:

if they claim that it is warranty safe, why then will they not back that claim by paying for ALL your DENIED warranty claims once GM has voided your warranty as a result of the diablo tune flash.

answer: because they know damn well that GM can tell.

strych9 · 10-23-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

go search the corvette forums.. you will find out otherwise, hundreds of guys with voided warranties using a variety of hand held tunners including diablo (as well as others)

and for the record, I owned a Chrysler 300c, and I bought their dealer Tech Tool the Star Scan when I had the car.

I had a diablo for my Chrysler and I could very well see the counters everytime I flashed the vehicle be it, with the star scan or the diablo.

yes that was Chrysler and not GM, but not much of a difference.

---

and my question to diablo is this:

if they claim that it is warranty safe, why then will they not back that claim by paying for ALL your DENIED warranty claims once GM has voided your warranty as a result of the diablo tune flash.

answer: because they know damn well that GM can tell.

BenningJ · 10-23-2012, 01:39 PM

OP, do you have the V6 or the V8? As far as I know, the V6 platform doesn't have a counter similar to the SS platforms. There have been a few people that have significant warranty work done and they had the Trifecta tune in their cars.

EDIT: They have the LLT you have the LFX. I don't think the LFX platform has the flash counter now or not. Check back in the LFX section for this.

Apex Motorsports · 10-23-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dznts

nope any tune will void the powertrain warranty!

sebi1990 · 10-23-2012, 10:28 PM

I'm planing on buying a v8 and trading my 6!

Mr_Draco · 10-24-2012, 03:56 PM

Diablo use to be a frequent vendor on here until a member on here had bought one of their so called "stealth tunes" and later had engine problems. When he flashed back to stock and went to the dealer to have it fixed, GM caught the tune and denied the claim. Shortly after that, a challenge was issued by the members of this forum to Diablo and to the couple other vendors who sell "stealth tunes" to prove that their tunes are stealth. After the challenge was issued, Diablo and the other vendors stopped claiming they was stealth and eventually stopped visiting the forums. The challenge still stands and to this day not a single tuner has been able to prove that their tunes are undetectable.

litle88 · 10-24-2012, 10:07 PM

Warrantys are for Camry's and Honda's.

Brandon@LSRPerformance · 10-25-2012, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

Warrantys are for Camry's and Honda's.

This.

10-23-2012, 12:14 PM	#1
sebi1990 Drives: 2012 v6 LFX M6 Black Camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 115	Warranty safe? I've been reading the description and I was wondering if its realy warranty safe and can be restored so that the dealer will now be able to detect it? http://autoagenda.com/2010-camaro-v8...e-next-day-air __________________ 2012 Camaro v6 LFX M6. Black. Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Muffler Delete. Best track time: 14.8s

10-23-2012, 12:16 PM	#2
Dznts Anabolic Connoisseur Drives: Sold - Blown Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 22,094	nope any tune will void the powertrain warranty! __________________

10-23-2012, 12:16 PM	#3
Mr. iNCREDIBLE Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: SoCal Baby... Posts: 2,530	yes the dealer can detect it, as the PCM will record how many "flashes" have been done to it, so when your PCM says it has taken XX # of flashes but the GM system only shows that YY number have been done, you are then boned.. __________________ *I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you fail to understand.*

10-23-2012, 12:24 PM	#4
strych9 I'll be back... Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 3,036 View My Garage	Not according to Diablo: __________________ Bye bye, Bumblebee! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Build Journal My Garage GoPro Mic Hack

10-23-2012, 12:27 PM	#5
sebi1990 Drives: 2012 v6 LFX M6 Black Camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 115	Yeah thats what I was looking at and them I'm like BS...(I'm not sure tho)...going to ask camaro family now Thx for the help __________________ 2012 Camaro v6 LFX M6. Black. Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Muffler Delete. Best track time: 14.8s

10-23-2012, 12:35 PM	#6
Mr. iNCREDIBLE Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: SoCal Baby... Posts: 2,530	go search the corvette forums.. you will find out otherwise, hundreds of guys with voided warranties using a variety of hand held tunners including diablo (as well as others) and for the record, I owned a Chrysler 300c, and I bought their dealer Tech Tool the Star Scan when I had the car. I had a diablo for my Chrysler and I could very well see the counters everytime I flashed the vehicle be it, with the star scan or the diablo. yes that was Chrysler and not GM, but not much of a difference. --- and my question to diablo is this: if they claim that it is warranty safe, why then will they not back that claim by paying for ALL your DENIED warranty claims once GM has voided your warranty as a result of the diablo tune flash. answer: because they know damn well that GM can tell. __________________ *I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you fail to understand.*

10-23-2012, 01:39 PM	#8
BenningJ Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Posts: 1,581 View My Garage	OP, do you have the V6 or the V8? As far as I know, the V6 platform doesn't have a counter similar to the SS platforms. There have been a few people that have significant warranty work done and they had the Trifecta tune in their cars. EDIT: They have the LLT you have the LFX. I don't think the LFX platform has the flash counter now or not. Check back in the LFX section for this. __________________ 2013 Camaro 1SS/RS - Ashen Gray Metallic \| LS3 \| CAI Inductions, Inc Intake \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| Dynatech 1.875" Long Tube Headers \| Apex Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam \| BTR 7.400" Push Rods \|LS2 Dampener \| Melling 10296 Oil Pump \| IWIS Chain \| BTR .660" Dual Valve Springs \| BTR Trunion Upgrade Kit \| Lethal Racing Tuned \| Anvil Notch Spoiler \| BMR Split Drop Springs \| Eaton TrueTrac \| GM 3.91 Gears \| LPW Diff Cover \| Rohana RF2 275/40 20x10F 315/35 20x11R \| BMR Polyurethane Motor Mounts

10-23-2012, 10:28 PM	#10
sebi1990 Drives: 2012 v6 LFX M6 Black Camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 115	I'm planing on buying a v8 and trading my 6! __________________ 2012 Camaro v6 LFX M6. Black. Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Muffler Delete. Best track time: 14.8s

10-24-2012, 03:56 PM	#11
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,177	Diablo use to be a frequent vendor on here until a member on here had bought one of their so called "stealth tunes" and later had engine problems. When he flashed back to stock and went to the dealer to have it fixed, GM caught the tune and denied the claim. Shortly after that, a challenge was issued by the members of this forum to Diablo and to the couple other vendors who sell "stealth tunes" to prove that their tunes are stealth. After the challenge was issued, Diablo and the other vendors stopped claiming they was stealth and eventually stopped visiting the forums. The challenge still stands and to this day not a single tuner has been able to prove that their tunes are undetectable.

10-24-2012, 10:07 PM	#12
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Warrantys are for Camry's and Honda's. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.