[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by BryceClark89

Correct me if im wrong but many 1le cars did 4.2-60....12.5-12.7@111mph.

Correction. no 1LE on this site has run faster than 12.7. Only 1 1LE has done that. And only 5 1LEs under 13 seconds recorded. Most 1LEs run in the 13s and the owners give up. To be fair 1LEs are not drag strip focused and there are few of them. I have owned a standard LS3 SS and a 1LE. In my case my older SS was a faster car in the 1/4. The best I could do in my 1LE stock was 13.2. It is much faster than that now, but it has a little help.

If your CA6 #s hold up, the reasons the new SS could compete with the more track oriented 1LE on a track would be that extra speed, lighter weight and a stiffer chassis. I would guess the 1LE has better track tires and a more neutral suspension setup with equal tires all the way around. The new SS may be faster, but would it be as much fun? Even if the CA6 SS bests the 5th gen 1LE on a track, I can see why some would hold out for the next 1LE (if it is coming). And I would bet even if the CA6 is faster, the better track time would go to the better driver.

With your numbers at the drag strip the new SS would destroy 5th gen 1LEs. Especially the CA6 automatics.

[Rocco70]

If I recall a stock 1le is no fast then a ss in the 1/4 mile now a ss with the 1le gear puts down better times

[BryceClark89]

I did infact make a typo 12.5-12.7...was supposed to be 12.7-12.9@110-112mph my apologies. Motor trend has done head to head tests on non prepped surfaces and over the years managed 12.7-13.0 with manual SS or SS1LE cars in 2010 the SS went up against a GT500 in that comparison the GT500 went 12.8@118mph and the SS went 12.9@110.7....and yes SS camaros can and do run high 12's if a heavier G8 GT can run 13.5-13.7 with an auto and less hp and the GXP with 415hp does 12.9@109mph then you would be silly to doubt an SS stock in the mid to upper 12's I can post links or pictures if needed or look yourself via youtube/motortrend 2009-2010 test 2012-2013test 2014-2015test. Every SS tested ran sub13sec 1/4's on NON drag prepped surfaces.

[13vertss]

One other thing I found out for those who think the $4000 base 1ss over base gt is to much. There is a long list, but one last thing is base GT doesn't get the drive modes either, even with the PP package. Where the 1ss does.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by BryceClark89

I did infact make a typo 12.5-12.7...was supposed to be 12.7-12.9@110-112mph my apologies. Motor trend has done head to head tests on non prepped surfaces and over the years managed 12.7-13.0 with manual SS or SS1LE cars in 2010 the SS went up against a GT500 in that comparison the GT500 went 12.8@118mph and the SS went 12.9@110.7....and yes SS camaros can and do run high 12's if a heavier G8 GT can run 13.5-13.7 with an auto and less hp and the GXP with 415hp does 12.9@109mph then you would be silly to doubt an SS stock in the mid to upper 12's I can post links or pictures if needed or look yourself via youtube/motortrend 2009-2010 test 2012-2013test 2014-2015test. Every SS tested ran sub13sec 1/4's on NON drag prepped surfaces.

The 2010 SS ran 13.0 @111 in the Motortrend test.

You were saying?

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

Build a GT Premium with same options and price is almost the same. Yet you get HUD and the option of getting mag ride, sunroof and NPP in which you CANNOT get that on a GT.

I did. It's $40,980 compared to the 16 2SS I just ordered which is $43,390(black/black M6, NPP, gray wheels) with virtually the same equipment.

Order the same GT with the performance package and it's still $1605 less than the SS.

[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

One other thing I found out for those who think the $4000 base 1ss over base gt is to much. There is a long list, but one last thing is base GT doesn't get the drive modes either, even with the PP package. Where the 1ss does.

You are correct. The drive modes are standard on ALL Camaros, even the base 4 banger 1LT (except TRACK mode - SS only).

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

I did. It's $40,980 compared to the 16 2SS I just ordered which is $43,390(black/black M6, NPP, gray wheels) with virtually the same equipment.

Order the same GT with the performance package and it's still $1605 less than the SS.

I just priced a 2ss bk/bk, m6 and nav. And it came to $42790. Priced the GT premium with PP, BLIS, and nav and it came to $42285. Pretty much identicle features other then HUD. So for $500 more you get 20hp and 55tq more, HUD, and you can get the NPP option.

[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

I just priced a 2ss bk/bk, m6 and nav. And it came to $42790. Priced the GT premium with PP, BLIS, and nav and it came to $42285. Pretty much identicle features other then HUD. So for $500 more you get 20hp and 55tq more, HUD, and you can get the NPP option.

Ford quotes Mustang GT HP/TQ numbers using 93 octane. I believe SS numbers are based on 91.

I just curious, does anybody know the power loss (hard numbers-not speculation) if lower octane premium is used on the GT (if any)?

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Bongos2U

Ford quotes Mustang GT HP/TQ numbers using 93 octane. I believe SS numbers are based on 91.

I just curious, does anybody know the power loss (hard numbers-not speculation) if lower octane premium is used on the GT (if any)?

On the road between 93 to 91 octane you probably won't even notice. But on a Dyno you may see a 3-5hp loss.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Bongos2U

Ford quotes Mustang GT HP/TQ numbers using 93 octane. I believe SS numbers are based on 91.

I just curious, does anybody know the power loss (hard numbers-not speculation) if lower octane premium is used on the GT (if any)?

Grasping much?

[ilirg]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Grasping much?

Camaro already out powers and out torques the Mustang, no grasping needed.

[VADER SS L99]

I didn't read this whole thing but the price did shock me a little and I have to give my .02 after stewing about it for a week. I do believe GM did do its homework and priced it in a way where you are getting exactly what you pay for vs the competition. However I think they messed up big time by not making some of the standard options optional. $4-5k difference over the GT? Come on man. Its actually going to be more than that in the real world this next year. Ford dealers will continue to offer up to and beyond $5k off msrp on the GT while GM dealers won't budge much on pricing. I fear for the F body a little. Yes, its a faster, better car with more features but some, including me, are going to have a difficult time swallowing a $5k (minimum) price difference. I'm sure the SS is going to soundly beat the GT but my gosh, damn near $40k for a 1SS with the only option being a 8 speed vs a GT premium automatic that can be had for $35k sounds a little ridiculous to me right now. Buying a first year car completely went out the window for me. I'll have to wait at least a year to see if dealers are discounting them.

[cyberbro]

When is the last time you got 5k off a mustang that did not have a huge rebate from the factory. I think everyone is discounting the mustang for this argument much more then it actually is discounted