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Bauer2 · 06-14-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MBaseman

Yes and no...not looking to start a debate or argument, but 304 stainless steel has MIN requirements to meet in order to be advertised as 304 Stainless Steel. I don't know for sure, but AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, the lower end 304 Stainless Steel could be very close to the MIN Requirements, whereas the higher end 304 Stainless Steel could be higher up the MIN Requirements scale.

Again, this is how it was explained to me. I don't really care that much, but I not all things are created equally. And US Steel regulations might be more strict when compared to other countries for example. This is not specific to the material being used in our header choices. For all I know, the exact same 304 Stainless Steel is being used by Kooks, ARH, Stainless Works and Power and Speed Engineering, etc. But then again, maybe not...

If you think the world is regulated the same as we do in this country, then you are mistaken. Other parts of the world can get away with much more than we can here in the good old USA.

My point is they still have to meet those minimum requirements for it to be classified as 304. Yes the QA in China usually isn't as good due to lax regulations but the fact remains in order to be classified as 304 it still has to meet international standards for that classification.

Bottom line here is it's still 304 SS and it doesn't matter where it comes from if you live in a high salt environment it will be prone to rust no matter its origin. Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying the quality is as good or better than say LG or Kooks or what every American headers set but for something that cost a minimum of 100% cheaper and a max of over 300% its a pretty damn good deal and for the price the quality is pretty damn good. I have yet to see any bad reviews from people that actually own them. Hell TSP headers are made in China as well and they get some pretty good reviews as well. If the company outsourcing has a good QA and stringent requirement it's hard to beat those prices especially if they stand behind their product which from everything I have seen they do. Feel free to read up on them they are sponsors on at least one other major forum for GM cars that I'm aware of with a good reputation.

I'm well aware of other countries I have been on every continent except Antartica and more countries than I can remember and most wern't shining becons of lavish living

MBaseman · 06-14-2016, 07:58 PM

That's all I was trying to say, lol. I agree completely and "cheaped out" myself with SP headers. The product is going to be too similar to justify the extra expense. Now if I had the means, that would be a different story. I would have bought American and not cared about the cost.

KGoddard · 09-13-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 8balldeluxe

Texas speed Hi flow cats do fit quite nicely BTW, there are some pics in another thread.

Do you have a part number?

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8balldeluxe · 09-14-2016, 10:34 PM

Nope no part number, I bought them used on here about a year ago

LCPLPunk · 09-19-2016, 01:30 AM

Can this install be done with the front of the car on ramps?

wrtowman · 09-19-2016, 03:59 AM

yep

pyroguy · 09-19-2016, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

Can this install be done with the front of the car on ramps?

Ramps or jack and jack stands. I installed my headers with the car on jack stands.

LCPLPunk · 09-19-2016, 05:14 PM

Sweet, I like being able to just drive my car up on ramps and be done with it.

MarioSS · 11-10-2016, 12:33 PM

Are the quality on these still good? As i plan to get me some nice LTH 😁

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Dmpsix · 11-10-2016, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioSS

Are the quality on these still good? As i plan to get me some nice LTH ��

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Don't overthink it. I'd type it all over again but here you go.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=58

MarioSS · 11-10-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmpsix

Don't overthink it. I'd type it all over again but here you go.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=58

Actually I did read that thread lol, and i value your input. Thanks

But may i ask why didn't you mention speed engineering as an option?

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Dmpsix · 11-10-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioSS

Actually I did read that thread lol, and i value your input. Thanks

But may i ask why didn't you mention speed engineering as an option?

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I forgot to add them, there's even a select few more of them out there that are just as good.

I got my headers back when people thought American Racing and Kooks were the only legit brands.

Like I said, if I could do it all over again. I would've been smart about it and got a sweet package deal from Maryland, JDP or other vendors that offer a stage II kind of thing.

It includes a cold air intake, ported throttle body, headers, exhaust, etc. All for like $2,200...

....where as I literally paid half that for JUST headers

http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/manufa...mance-packages

MarioSS · 11-10-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmpsix

I forgot to add them, there's even a select few more of them out there that are just as good.

I got my headers back when people thought American Racing and Kooks were the only legit brands.

Like I said, if I could do it all over again. I would've been smart about it and got a sweet package deal from Maryland, JDP or other vendors that offer a stage II kind of thing.

It includes a cold air intake, ported throttle body, headers, exhaust, etc. All for like $2,200...

....where as I literally paid half that for JUST headers

http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/manufa...mance-packages

Thank man!

Guess I'll just order my headers from speed engineering.
I'm going to purchase my FI build from juiced, as i found that they have the best pricing!

Once more thanks a million

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InfernoB · 11-10-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

Yes, I used the o/r pipes and with the Outlaws, it was actually quieter than with manifolds and no cats. Only thing I can guess is that the manifolds dump the exhaust into the pipe in a very abrupt way to cause it to be louder and rougher.

Are you saying that you car was louder with the factory exhaust manifolds & no cats, paired with the flowmaster outlaw catback... than it was AFTER you added TSP 1 7/8 Long Tube Headers & offroad connections to the same flowmaster outlaw catback?

Did the headers quiet it down across the board... startup, idling and reving, cruising around 70-75, and Wide open throttle?

Seems a bit backwards... am I understanding you correctly?

09-14-2016, 10:34 PM	#74
8balldeluxe Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Victory Red Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Rosenberg, Texas Posts: 780	Nope no part number, I bought them used on here about a year ago __________________ Speed Engineering Headers w/ Texas Speed HFC's ~ Flowmaster 2 1/2" cat back w/Flowmaster Super 10's ~ Cold Air Inductions Intake w/ Scoop and WW relocate ~ VMAX CNC Spiral PTB ~ Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/Hawk pads ~ ZL1 Spoiler ~ SCTX4 RDP Tuned

09-19-2016, 01:30 AM	#75
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Can this install be done with the front of the car on ramps? __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

09-19-2016, 03:59 AM	#76
wrtowman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Warner Robins Ga Posts: 778	yep __________________ 2011 SGM Camaro 1SS/RS A6 - Vengeance Racing built/tuned. 590RWHP/560RWTQ, ADM LSA Conversion, 2.5 Grip-Tec, ZL1 fuel pump, ADM FPCM, FIC1000, VRPD2 Cam and LS3 Conversion with all the internal goodies, American Racing 1 7/8 Headers, no cats, SW Retro Cat Back, ADM Intake, AFCO HX, Varimax Pump, Rotofab Reservoir, B&M Transmission Cooler, VMAX TB, Elite Engineering CC, BMR LCAs, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, DSS 1000hp axles, ZL1 Bumper and Sideskirts, Night Owl Halos, Matte Black 20" Rohana RC-22 with 20x10-275s/20x11-315s, R1 Concept Premier Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hawk Ceramic Pads.

09-19-2016, 05:14 PM	#78
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Sweet, I like being able to just drive my car up on ramps and be done with it. __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

06-14-2016, 07:58 PM	#72
MBaseman Drives: 2015 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South FL Posts: 213	That's all I was trying to say, lol. I agree completely and "cheaped out" myself with SP headers. The product is going to be too similar to justify the extra expense. Now if I had the means, that would be a different story. I would have bought American and not cared about the cost.

11-10-2016, 12:33 PM	#79
MarioSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (RS LS3) Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Jo Posts: 302	Are the quality on these still good? As i plan to get me some nice LTH 😁 Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk