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Rhino79 · 01-29-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

It always takes some time for things to settle in after you change a tune. You need to drive it a bit and let things like the LTFT settle back in. It may be that after 20-30 miles on the stock tune it would have lost some power.

Correct. LTFT's CAN carry over into power enrichment (wot mode). The accuracy of the airflow tables like the maf and vve are very important to make sure you arent carrying over any or as little ltfts as possible.

Think of it like this, you get a dyno tune, afr is perfect. You drive home, ltfts learn and they are say -15%. If you have -15% trims at wot, that means it is taking away 15% of the fuel commanded...yikes.

On my car with a cam that has a lot of overlap and is extremely inefficient at idle and lower speeds, I didnt want false trims jacking my power enrichement up, so I run without them. I use stfts only, and they will not carry over into power enrich. LTFTs are just a learned pattern of what the stfts have done in that fuel trim cell zone over a period of time.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 01-29-2013, 08:28 PM

I was there today as well. I saw them take the front bumper off of Ventmaster's car and some of the early steps involved with installing the S/C. I also saw another member's car there, something about a big number 6 on the side (ha ha).

From what Jesse and I talked about at lunch (I bought), my understanding was that they were going to dyno the car as it came in, then again flashed back to stock and then again with the IPF tune. I do not know if that all happened.

Oh yeah, I put three boxes in my car when I left. It appears there's a supercharger, intercooler and associated parts all in there. Install will be taking place at my house this weekend (by me) and Jesse will be coming by to slap in the tune. Ohhh yeah...

There was also a Lotus Esprit V-8 and a Ferrari of some designation or other in the shop when I was there. I'm not worthy!

John B.

lscamaro · 01-29-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

I was there today as well. I saw them take the front bumper off of Ventmaster's car and some of the early steps involved with installing the S/C. I also saw another member's car there, something about a big number 6 on the side (ha ha).

From what Jesse and I talked about at lunch (I bought), my understanding was that they were going to dyno the car as it came in, then again flashed back to stock and then again with the IPF tune. I do not know if that all happened.

Oh yeah, I put three boxes in my car when I left. It appears there's a supercharger, intercooler and associated parts all in there. Install will be taking place at my house this weekend (by me) and Jesse will be coming by to slap in the tune. Ohhh yeah...

There was also a Lotus Esprit V-8 and a Ferrari of some designation or other in the shop when I was there. I'm not worthy!

John B.

Congrats to you too!

KMPrenger · 01-29-2013, 10:21 PM

Thread is full of win and good information.

IPF-Tuning · 01-29-2013, 10:23 PM

Vent....of course we had to throw that in just for the heck of it. Thanks for thinking of it! We will frame it for you with all 4 tunes! T, Stock, IPF and IPF SC.

See ya tomorrow!

Jesse!

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Originally Posted by Ventmaster

Agree with everyone that immediately after a change an increase can occur that's short lived.

I've data logged 3 times over the years- and full disclosure would be that I don't think I did after adding the ported IM (most recent mod).
However, since none of my other changes ever prompted an update, I didn't feel it necessary to log then.

Wish I had the presence of mind to suggest they throw on the N/A IPF tune while the car was on the dyno- but I basically drove all night to have the car there at 8am and I was DOA in the brain!

IPF-Tuning · 01-29-2013, 10:35 PM

Thanks fr3e! You are really swell as well! HAHA!!, I am a poet and didn't know it! But Ventmaster is from Utah and drove all the way in to visit us at IPF! So, as much as we would all love him at the local Pavilions, he's gotta go home. Too bad it was not next weekend.

But JohnnyBfromPeoria is coming next time!

Stay IPF Tuned........

Thanks,

Jesse!

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Originally Posted by Fr3e4gent

Congrats, I live in Tempe too. I love seeing the cars that they have coming by the shop every now and then. They had a lambo 2 weeks ago a blacked out CTS-V and some bmw's with roll cages.

Jesse is a really swell guy

Have you ever gone up to Scottsdale to the Pavillons Car Shows? Off of Indian School next to the McDonalds?

Fr3e4gent · 01-30-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

I was there today as well. I saw them take the front bumper off of Ventmaster's car and some of the early steps involved with installing the S/C. I also saw another member's car there, something about a big number 6 on the side (ha ha).

From what Jesse and I talked about at lunch (I bought), my understanding was that they were going to dyno the car as it came in, then again flashed back to stock and then again with the IPF tune. I do not know if that all happened.

Oh yeah, I put three boxes in my car when I left. It appears there's a supercharger, intercooler and associated parts all in there. Install will be taking place at my house this weekend (by me) and Jesse will be coming by to slap in the tune. Ohhh yeah...

There was also a Lotus Esprit V-8 and a Ferrari of some designation or other in the shop when I was there. I'm not worthy!

John B.

The car with the giant 6 on it is SixJacks (sorry spelt name wrong i think )

Ventmaster · 01-30-2013, 09:37 PM

Well we were all so busy talking cars today the install didn't quite get finished!

I also got to take a ride in an IPF 785hp Porsche- thanks Ian, sure am glad the brakes work as well as the engine!

I'll be passing the proverbial hat to my C5 brethren to cover my hotel for the extra night (actually, Jesse's picking up the tab!).

I don't mind spending an another evening in friendly Tempe AZ, and in the morning we'll be finishing the dyno runs.

I'll see if Jesse can post those results (probably can do a better job of it), but I look forward to being there to see them firsthand!

And yes, they'll include the Trifecta,stock,IPF N/A, and IPF S/C!

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 01-30-2013, 10:58 PM

Now this just got really interesting.

John B.

2ssx2 · 01-30-2013, 11:04 PM

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lscamaro · 01-30-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBfromPeoria

Now this just got really interesting.

John B.

couldn't agree with you more... Gonna sit back and enjoy the

Sikoriko · 01-31-2013, 08:14 AM

IPF's wisdom also expands to parts back east, Germany. Arno, great people to have backing you

Nutbutt · 02-01-2013, 04:34 PM

I just can't wait ! How did I miss this thread ? Work is so getting in the way of my fun !

matt6589 · 02-01-2013, 06:51 PM

So what's the verdict with sending this much power through the v6? Can the V6 clutch, transmission, and rear end handle it reliably in the long run?

01-29-2013, 08:28 PM	#16
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	I was there today as well. I saw them take the front bumper off of Ventmaster's car and some of the early steps involved with installing the S/C. I also saw another member's car there, something about a big number 6 on the side (ha ha). From what Jesse and I talked about at lunch (I bought), my understanding was that they were going to dyno the car as it came in, then again flashed back to stock and then again with the IPF tune. I do not know if that all happened. Oh yeah, I put three boxes in my car when I left. It appears there's a supercharger, intercooler and associated parts all in there. Install will be taking place at my house this weekend (by me) and Jesse will be coming by to slap in the tune. Ohhh yeah... There was also a Lotus Esprit V-8 and a Ferrari of some designation or other in the shop when I was there. I'm not worthy! John B. __________________ 12 LS M6, IPF S/C, ASA GT-5 wheels, VMax PTB 1995 Mitsubishi Montero SR 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo Project 1986 Mitsubishi Montero 2.4l FI Transplant

01-29-2013, 10:21 PM	#18
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Thread is full of win and good information. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

01-30-2013, 10:58 PM	#23
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Now this just got really interesting. John B. __________________ 12 LS M6, IPF S/C, ASA GT-5 wheels, VMax PTB 1995 Mitsubishi Montero SR 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo Project 1986 Mitsubishi Montero 2.4l FI Transplant

01-30-2013, 11:04 PM	#24
2ssx2 Drives: 2013 2ss se/ 2009 cobalt ss Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 241	subscribed __________________ 2013 Special edition 2SS/RS, dual mode, sun roof, Nav, edelbrock SC, JRE tuned, tinted windows.

02-01-2013, 04:34 PM	#27
Nutbutt Drives: 2011 RJT 2LT/RS Convertible Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 3,381 View My Garage	I just can't wait ! How did I miss this thread ? Work is so getting in the way of my fun ! __________________ 1st IPF Supercharged 2011 2LT/RS RJT Convertible

01-30-2013, 09:37 PM	#22
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,869	Well we were all so busy talking cars today the install didn't quite get finished! I also got to take a ride in an IPF 785hp Porsche- thanks Ian, sure am glad the brakes work as well as the engine! I'll be passing the proverbial hat to my C5 brethren to cover my hotel for the extra night (actually, Jesse's picking up the tab!). I don't mind spending an another evening in friendly Tempe AZ, and in the morning we'll be finishing the dyno runs. I'll see if Jesse can post those results (probably can do a better job of it), but I look forward to being there to see them firsthand! And yes, they'll include the Trifecta,stock,IPF N/A, and IPF S/C!

01-31-2013, 08:14 AM	#26
Sikoriko Drives: 2011 V6 IOM Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,385 View My Garage	IPF's wisdom also expands to parts back east, Germany. Arno, great people to have backing you

02-01-2013, 06:51 PM	#28
matt6589 Drives: 2013 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CA Posts: 103	So what's the verdict with sending this much power through the v6? Can the V6 clutch, transmission, and rear end handle it reliably in the long run? __________________ 2012 1LS w/ Roto-Fab intake, Dynomax VT exhaust, RX Catch Can, Ported TB