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Old 02-21-2011, 05:40 PM   #1
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ZL1 Strut tower brace

Ever since I saw the first pics of the brace under the hood, I've bounced back and forth between "eye candy, probably not needed" and "jeez maybe the MRC and big tires are going to pull enough lateral G's to need it".

I seem to remember Pedders saying in the forums on this site that they make a brace for the Mustang but not the 5th Gen Camaro because in their opinion it doesn't need one due to chassis ridgidity.

Any thoughts, comments, rumors or guesses?
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:02 PM   #2
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When it first appeared on the convertible it made sense. I was surprised to see it on the ZL1. It's more weight, so it must serve a function.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:08 PM   #3
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Funny thing? Went to the Cadillac dealer to buy the wifes new CTS last week. They have strut tower braces on all of their cars? Even the wagons? What's up with that?
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:54 AM   #4
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Ever since I saw the first pics of the brace under the hood, I've bounced back and forth between "eye candy, probably not needed" and "jeez maybe the MRC and big tires are going to pull enough lateral G's to need it".

I seem to remember Pedders saying in the forums on this site that they make a brace for the Mustang but not the 5th Gen Camaro because in their opinion it doesn't need one due to chassis ridgidity.

Any thoughts, comments, rumors or guesses?
I remember the comments you mention and I also remember comments from another vendor with a video where they actually show strut tower movement while driving. While I don't know, necessarily that the STB is required, being it looks aluminum, it's not a lot of weight, and given the extra weight and mass of ZL1, not to mention it's higher stock capabilities, I'm certainly in favor of the STB. I'm glad it polished; if it stays into production, I think it's eye candy, just like that LSA
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:57 AM   #5
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Me love eye candy!!!
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:28 PM   #6
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Well, it would probably help. How much would it help (or is it even needed)? I have no clue.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:44 PM   #7
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Pfadt makes a strut tower brace. So does hotchkins and peddlers either is in the process or has one out. From what I have read it helps with handling by keeping the towers from flexing under heavy load.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:17 PM   #8
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Pfadt makes a strut tower brace. So does hotchkins and peddlers either is in the process or has one out. From what I have read it helps with handling by keeping the towers from flexing under heavy load.
I haven't read anything about Pedders making an annoucement about developing one. I believe I remember them commenting on the fact the front apron area and strut tower areas are pretty different between G8s (and the Auzzie counterparts) and that CAMARO's was significantly more stout, but don't recall them saying it was necessary until you're building a race car - which they say they don't.

Anyhoow - I'm sure ZL1's is going to be functional and it certainly isn't going to hurt anything. Hopefully - with some nutzerts, or the like, that bar can trickle to SSs and V6s out there for those who might be interested. I know that sheetmetal is thick and tough in that area, but I'm sure it'd be a nice edition
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:50 PM   #9
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stb's have been 50/50 for a long time. Some cars like fwd need them and you can feel a difference in the handling with them on it. I'm not sure about the Camaro's though. I dont have one but I do have every other suspension mod under the sun on my Camaro.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:07 PM   #10
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A couple extra lbs maybe, but I'm sure it's lightweight and besides, anything you lose on weight you gain triple that in WOW factor
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GM isn't going to waste development time and cost on a part like a STB if it wasn't needed. If that was the case they would have just thrown one on the SS. The performance of the ZL1 must warrant it.
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GM isn't going to waste development time and cost on a part like a STB if it wasn't needed. If that was the case they would have just thrown one on the SS. The performance of the ZL1 must warrant it.
Great point. I can see it, without thinking about it, for the ragtop, so ZL1 must see some benefit from it.

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The strut tower brace does help with handling, anything that increases chassis stability like sub frame connectors and even down to the sway bars. I don't see it weighing that much, maybe 10lbs but it is worth its weight...

I would like to see the bottom of the Convertible's improved chassis treatment if anybody has a picture. The vert has several under-body braces that are basically bolt on and could be applied to the coupe. I am willing to bet that some of those bolt-ons will find their way to the ZL1.

As in the transmission support reinforcement brace, underbody tunnel brace and especially the front and rear underbody "V" braces.. The "V" braces are my bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the other two as well...
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:58 AM   #14
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The strut tower brace does help with handling, anything that increases chassis stability like sub frame connectors and even down to the sway bars. I don't see it weighing that much, maybe 10lbs but it is worth its weight...

I would like to see the bottom of the Convertible's improved chassis treatment if anybody has a picture. The vert has several under-body braces that are basically bolt on and could be applied to the coupe. I am willing to bet that some of those bolt-ons will find their way to the ZL1.

As in the transmission support reinforcement brace, underbody tunnel brace and especially the front and rear underbody "V" braces.. The "V" braces are my bet but it wouldn't surprise me to see the other two as well...
Well I came across this in my tech manuals looking for the jack points. Compared to what little photos we have this looks like the underside of the vert.

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