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kinpin · 05-09-2014, 08:11 PM

We all know the 2013 and 2014 GT500 is mostly a straight line muscle car . But i think we all can admit it is the best Mustang that ford has ever put out . On the other hand we all know our beloved Zl1 is a more sophisticated track car and has more style in my opinion. But i would like to able to compete in the straight line too . I said compete not blow away. Just be able to be closer then i am with my stock Zl1 . But is that asking to much ?. I don't want to do anything that would effect the long term health of the car or motor . Is what i am thinking even realistic ? Can you have a track car that also compete in the straight line arena with a GT500 or is that like a oxymoron ?

hairtrigger · 05-09-2014, 08:14 PM

Check out the tuners for a 100 rwhp package, that should keep up to a stock one. Don't forget that driving ability is a big key here too.

Mikes12ZL1 · 05-09-2014, 08:26 PM

Cold air and an upper pulley and your there.. So for 700 bucks you would be around the same hp as the gt500.and have a much better track car.

Sven59 · 05-09-2014, 09:19 PM

I think some people have almost gotten there and kept their warranty. You can get a CAI, ported throttle body and headers and may not require a tune. Talk with your service dept about it, many Dealers will work with you as long as you don't get a tune and if something goes wrong it can't be attributed to your mods. If you even get close to the GT500s HP the Zl1 will probably be faster based on how they are set up.

jessrayo · 05-09-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kinpin

We all know the 2013 and 2014 GT500 is mostly a straight line muscle car . But i think we all can admit it is the best Mustang that ford has ever put out . On the other hand we all know our beloved Zl1 is a more sophisticated track car and has more style in my opinion. But i would like to able to compete in the straight line too . I said compete not blow away. Just be able to be closer then i am with my stock Zl1 . But is that asking to much ?. I don't want to do anything that would effect the long term health of the car or motor . Is what i am thinking even realistic ? Can you have a track car that also compete in the straight line arena with a GT500 or is that like a oxymoron ?

Do you have a 1LE or a ZL1?
I have been blowing away stock GT500's at the drag strip and at the road course for a long time. It is so easy to mod to 600+ at the tires and mount a set of drag radials, this will blow them away in a straight line. That is all you need to do. It is not difficult and that power level is very safe on this car. GM has always had a much easier car to mod. Find a good tuner in your area spend a few bucks and it will be done.

kinpin · 05-09-2014, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

Do you have a 1LE or a ZL1?
I have been blowing away stock GT500's at the drag strip and at the road course for a long time. It is so easy to mod to 600+ at the tires and mount a set of drag radials, this will blow them away in a straight line. That is all you need to do. It is not difficult and that power level is very safe on this car. GM has always had a much easier car to mod. Find a good tuner in your area spend a few bucks and it will be done.

Zl1

jessrayo · 05-09-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kinpin

Zl1

You should change what you drive in your profile it says 2014 1LE. The ZL1 is one pulley swap and a tune away from beating the stock GT500 anywhere.... literally.

kinpin · 05-09-2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

You should change what you drive in your profile it says 2014 1LE. The ZL1 is one pulley swap and a tune away from beating the stock GT500 anywhere.... literally.

Thanks

SlitherByU · 05-09-2014, 10:44 PM

Just be happy with what you bought. Chances are that half the GT500's you'll run into are lightly modded with DRs. Anybody poppin around in a stock GT500 probably don't race it much.

JamesZL1 · 05-09-2014, 10:54 PM

I am seeing all these really cool Mods, but I don't want to void the warranty...lol, so I can only do a couple..That's okay, when most of the Warranty is close to being used up, I'll have all my goodies ready to go.

jessrayo · 05-09-2014, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SlitherByU

Just be happy with what you bought. Chances are that half the GT500's you'll run into are lightly modded with DRs. Anybody poppin around in a stock GT500 probably don't race it much.

I don't really consider the tires mods, I have 3 different configurations I swap around depending on what I'm doing with the car. I learned a while back that bringing street tires to a drag race is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Setting yourself up for failure there....

jessrayo · 05-09-2014, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesZL1

I am seeing all these really cool Mods, but I don't want to void the warranty...lol, so I can only do a couple..That's okay, when most of the Warranty is close to being used up, I'll have all my goodies ready to go.

I really don't think the engine warranty should influence anyone that wants to mod. I know of 2 LSA motor failures since 2009 that had to have warranty replacement and one of them was lightly modded and they replaced it anyway. I guess you could be the third but I figure if you take it out and bump the limiter in every gear and nothing happens its probably assembled correctly and it will hold if you mod it. Even highly modded very few people are having engine failures.

So....ah....what counties are you working.....

CAM....ZL1 · 05-09-2014, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesZL1

I am seeing all these really cool Mods, but I don't want to void the warranty...lol, so I can only do a couple..That's okay, when most of the Warranty is close to being used up, I'll have all my goodies ready to go.

If your willing to mod. After warranty and pay out of pocket for any possible breakage, why not now? In my opinion modding them early breaks the car in at that power level. Waiting till you put many miles on it and wearing out he warranty then pushing it a lot harder I would think it would be harder on the drive train. IMO

CAM....ZL1 · 05-09-2014, 11:10 PM

Also I have been runnin mine hard at the strip with he 100 RWHP package
With no problems. It still drives like stock with just a little more rumble
I have had passes at 7.19 @ 102 plus in the 1/8.
That will take take care of the snake .

05-09-2014, 08:11 PM	#1
kinpin 618 RWHP Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Albany New York Posts: 772 View My Garage	GT 500 vs Zl1 ? We all know the 2013 and 2014 GT500 is mostly a straight line muscle car . But i think we all can admit it is the best Mustang that ford has ever put out . On the other hand we all know our beloved Zl1 is a more sophisticated track car and has more style in my opinion. But i would like to able to compete in the straight line too . I said compete not blow away. Just be able to be closer then i am with my stock Zl1 . But is that asking to much ?. I don't want to do anything that would effect the long term health of the car or motor . Is what i am thinking even realistic ? Can you have a track car that also compete in the straight line arena with a GT500 or is that like a oxymoron ?

05-09-2014, 08:14 PM	#2
hairtrigger Drives: 69 Chevelle SS396 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Posts: 700	Check out the tuners for a 100 rwhp package, that should keep up to a stock one. Don't forget that driving ability is a big key here too. __________________

05-09-2014, 08:26 PM	#3
Mikes12ZL1 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Victory Red Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Asheville Posts: 38 View My Garage	Cold air and an upper pulley and your there.. So for 700 bucks you would be around the same hp as the gt500.and have a much better track car. __________________ ZL1 # 158 605 RWHP 624 RWTQ

05-09-2014, 09:19 PM	#4
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	I think some people have almost gotten there and kept their warranty. You can get a CAI, ported throttle body and headers and may not require a tune. Talk with your service dept about it, many Dealers will work with you as long as you don't get a tune and if something goes wrong it can't be attributed to your mods. If you even get close to the GT500s HP the Zl1 will probably be faster based on how they are set up. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

05-09-2014, 10:44 PM	#9
SlitherByU Drives: 2018 GT350R Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 234	Just be happy with what you bought. Chances are that half the GT500's you'll run into are lightly modded with DRs. Anybody poppin around in a stock GT500 probably don't race it much. __________________ 2018 GT350R

05-09-2014, 10:54 PM	#10
JamesZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 A6 Camaro, 2015 C7 A6 Z51 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 396	I am seeing all these really cool Mods, but I don't want to void the warranty...lol, so I can only do a couple..That's okay, when most of the Warranty is close to being used up, I'll have all my goodies ready to go. __________________ Roto-Fab CAI, Texas Speed Headers, Texas Speed X-Pipe, Texas Speed LS3-B Blower Cam, Metco 9.10" Crank Pulley, Metco 2.5 Upper Pulley, ID 850 Injectors, LPE Ported Throttle Body, Alky Control Methanol kit, E2 Catch Can, 610HP / 608 Torque.

05-09-2014, 11:10 PM	#14
CAM....ZL1 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: BENTON, IL. Posts: 1,068 View My Garage	Also I have been runnin mine hard at the strip with he 100 RWHP package With no problems. It still drives like stock with just a little more rumble I have had passes at 7.19 @ 102 plus in the 1/8. That will take take care of the snake .