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MadMaxx · 05-24-2009, 07:15 PM

http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2264/article.html

Interesting to note -- they use this motor in the Formula Holden series. They achieve 387hp from them NA, but use motec systems (basically an unlocked beefed up ME9) to drive them.

DEW · 05-24-2009, 07:57 PM

Very cool! Thanks for sharing

dougmac · 05-25-2009, 09:52 AM

I've read 2 other "detailed" write ups on the US spec version, neither of which were as detailed as this ... EXCELLENT FIND !!

Anyone else catch the lower performance output ??
190kw = 255 HP ... vs. 304 HP (Camaro & CTS)
340Nm = 250 ft-lb ... vs. 273 ft-lb.

Also mentions a Dual Mass Flywheel. This was discussed here before, but thought I remember the Camaro clutch not being the "Dual Mass" type. Dual Mass is usually much more $$ to service than a std. flywheel, clutch, & PP.

Manual Transmission appears to be the same (not specified as "AISIN", but all ratios are identical) but mentions a final drive of 2.87:1 ... vs. 3.27:1 for Camaro.

If the Aussies are using similar 28-5/8" o/a dia. tires, we are talking a 12.2% reduction of RPM when cruising in O.D. ... 1950 vs. 2225 RPM @ 75 MPH !!

2225 RPM @ 75 MPH is lower than many vehicles today, but I was kind of curious if this 3.6L (propelling a 3750 lb. vehicle) could tollerate even more of a highway gear since 75% of my driving is on the interstate with cruise locked on 75 MPH. If it could boost MPG by 10-12% (32 MPG), that would be pretty sweet !!

Thanks again for the very informative read !!

Doug

Computerplay · 05-30-2009, 07:23 AM

Doug....I've seen some threads where people are getting 32 MPG stock. New EPA quidelines are conservative I think.

Xanthos · 06-13-2009, 05:46 PM

I was under the impression that all of the holden HFV6's were fuel injected, not SIDI. Meaning their alloytec 190 is the same as our LY7, or very similar.

I could certainly be wrong here though.
- Xanthos

ZeeTwentyFour · 06-13-2009, 06:32 PM

gotta love the GM six bangers.

*The_Blur* · 06-13-2009, 06:43 PM

This V6 is epic. I'm glad to hear of these performance applications.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Computerplay

Doug....I've seen some threads where people are getting 32 MPG stock. New EPA quidelines are conservative I think.

New EPA standards are simply wrong. I would encourage you to contact your elected officials and the bureaucrats in the White House to ask for fairer EPA standards for testing combustion engine output. Tell them that the numbers reported by the EPA are consistently lower than those reported by vehicle owners.

*CamaroSpike23* · 06-13-2009, 07:02 PM

great find!

Xanthos · 06-13-2009, 07:34 PM

Yep - article confirms it.

Quote:

Fuel System:
Sequential port fuel injection (returnless)

This is the holden version of the LY7 - our "low output" HFV6. Still - its a great find illustrating how good this motor family is.
- Xanthos

mickss · 06-14-2009, 04:40 PM

http://gmhightechperformance.automot...v6-engine.html

Bumblebee10 · 08-29-2009, 07:05 PM

32 mpg ..no way. With the best gas and new oil change, the best I get is 17.8 city and 23mpg hwy. I have no idea where they get 27mpg...maybe on a decending hwy.

SilverIce1 · 08-29-2009, 08:30 PM

I just got 28.6 mpg over a stretch through the flint hills of eastern Kansas of 157 miles at 72 mph cruise control. That included one stop, shut off and restart at a tollway plaza. On flat land over a 15 mile stretch today at 70 mph cruise control 75 degrees and 85% humidity I recorded 31.5 mpg. Your car under-performs at 23 highway.

Stevil · 08-29-2009, 09:13 PM

Anyone seen this?
PERFORMANCE CHIP
http://slrmotorsports.com/shop/index...t_detail&p=135

rmbrady · 08-29-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevil

Anyone seen this?
PERFORMANCE CHIP
http://slrmotorsports.com/shop/index...t_detail&p=135

It's a total fraud, they advertise the exact same gains for every car in the site.

05-24-2009, 07:15 PM	#1
MadMaxx Master of the V6 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 239 View My Garage	More technical details on the 3.6 http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2264/article.html Interesting to note -- they use this motor in the Formula Holden series. They achieve 387hp from them NA, but use motec systems (basically an unlocked beefed up ME9) to drive them. Last edited by MadMaxx; 05-24-2009 at 07:53 PM.

05-24-2009, 07:57 PM	#2
DEW Drives: Hoopdee Join Date: May 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 263	Very cool! Thanks for sharing __________________ 2LT - CYBER GRAY METALLIC - BLACK RALLY STRIPES - MANUAL TRANNY - POLISHED 19" WHEELS BUILD - 6/12/2009 Airaid V2, Flowmaster AT

05-30-2009, 07:23 AM	#4
Computerplay Drives: 2010 1LT RS Black/Silver Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South GA Posts: 110	Doug....I've seen some threads where people are getting 32 MPG stock. New EPA quidelines are conservative I think. __________________ 1LT RS Auto Tap Black/Black, Silver Stripes, Sunroof 1100 = 4/22/09 2000 = ? 2500 = 5/27/09 3000 = 5/27/09 3300 = 6/24/09 tpw 7/20 3400 = 7/20/09 3800 = produced 7/22/09? #28839 4200, Shipped 7/24/09? 5000, 8/13/09 6000 = Delivered to Customer 8/13/09

06-13-2009, 05:46 PM	#5
Xanthos PWA Relapse Drives: Formerly-Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,588 View My Garage	I was under the impression that all of the holden HFV6's were fuel injected, not SIDI. Meaning their alloytec 190 is the same as our LY7, or very similar. I could certainly be wrong here though. - Xanthos __________________ 2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

06-13-2009, 06:32 PM	#6
ZeeTwentyFour Does not have a Camaro Drives: 99 silverado Z71/66 Chevelle SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 469 View My Garage	gotta love the GM six bangers. __________________

05-25-2009, 09:52 AM	#3
dougmac Drives: 2011 V6 MCA & 1969 GT Mustang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: N.E. Wisconsin Posts: 112	I've read 2 other "detailed" write ups on the US spec version, neither of which were as detailed as this ... EXCELLENT FIND !! Anyone else catch the lower performance output ?? 190kw = 255 HP ... vs. 304 HP (Camaro & CTS) 340Nm = 250 ft-lb ... vs. 273 ft-lb. Also mentions a Dual Mass Flywheel. This was discussed here before, but thought I remember the Camaro clutch not being the "Dual Mass" type. Dual Mass is usually much more $$ to service than a std. flywheel, clutch, & PP. Manual Transmission appears to be the same (not specified as "AISIN", but all ratios are identical) but mentions a final drive of 2.87:1 ... vs. 3.27:1 for Camaro. If the Aussies are using similar 28-5/8" o/a dia. tires, we are talking a 12.2% reduction of RPM when cruising in O.D. ... 1950 vs. 2225 RPM @ 75 MPH !! 2225 RPM @ 75 MPH is lower than many vehicles today, but I was kind of curious if this 3.6L (propelling a 3750 lb. vehicle) could tollerate even more of a highway gear since 75% of my driving is on the interstate with cruise locked on 75 MPH. If it could boost MPG by 10-12% (32 MPG), that would be pretty sweet !! Thanks again for the very informative read !! Doug

06-14-2009, 04:40 PM	#10
mickss Drives: 2010 Camaro LS-M6 67 Chevelle Wgn Join Date: May 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,509 View My Garage	http://gmhightechperformance.automot...v6-engine.html

08-29-2009, 07:05 PM	#11
Bumblebee10 Bumblebee10 Drives: 2011 2LT Red Jewel RS Automatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Land O Lakes,Fl Posts: 101 View My Garage	32 mpg ..no way. With the best gas and new oil change, the best I get is 17.8 city and 23mpg hwy. I have no idea where they get 27mpg...maybe on a decending hwy. __________________

08-29-2009, 08:30 PM	#12
SilverIce1 Silver Ice Drives: 2010 SIM 2LT Automatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Central Kansas Posts: 191	I just got 28.6 mpg over a stretch through the flint hills of eastern Kansas of 157 miles at 72 mph cruise control. That included one stop, shut off and restart at a tollway plaza. On flat land over a 15 mile stretch today at 70 mph cruise control 75 degrees and 85% humidity I recorded 31.5 mpg. Your car under-performs at 23 highway.

08-29-2009, 09:13 PM	#13
Stevil Drives: 2LT RS Imperial Blue Metalic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 92	Anyone seen this? PERFORMANCE CHIP http://slrmotorsports.com/shop/index...t_detail&p=135

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