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05-23-2010, 09:17 AM
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 Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: woodbridge, va
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Can a CAI cause a engine misfire and blow a piston?
Guys. i was wondering will a cai Kill a piston? a cai like SLP which is just a tube and a filter?
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05-23-2010, 09:22 AM
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No, if you blow an engine after installing any of the CAI's you most likely had something wrong with the engine in the first place. The worst that I have heard happen is to have a code come up due to the fact that CAI's do bring in more air flow to the engine and may cause a "lean" condition that the computer picks up.
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05-23-2010, 09:24 AM
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No. If the CAI is properly installed and the filter is secure it's not going to blow a piston. A misfire might happen if the MAF was damaged or contaminated in some way but with computers monitoring and adjusting everything now days it's more likely plugs, coils, wires would be the cause of a misfire. Bad gas can cause a misfire; fuel delivery problems (i.e. clogged fuel filters, fuel pump) can cause a misfire.
Blowing a piston is probably pretty rare now days in a stock configuration. Typically it's guys who add nitrous and think it's a cheap and easy boost who blow things up. Adding a CAI by itself won't.
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05-23-2010, 09:39 AM
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Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: woodbridge, va
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Thanks guys!!! mine is currenty at the dealer. and they said that it was no compression in the number 3 cyclinder. now have to wait until the shop forman get involved. it is crazy. Thanks again for the info
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05-23-2010, 01:19 PM
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Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010
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Last edited by Apex Motorsports; 05-23-2010 at 03:01 PM. |
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05-23-2010, 02:55 PM
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Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: woodbridge, va
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thanks... i wont find out until tommorow after the shop forman gets in. i guess they have to go thru the motions seeing if i was using a tune or nitrous.
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05-23-2010, 02:55 PM
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Has caused GM to write at least 2 TSBs to inform dealers to watch for CAI and not warranty if found. Air cleaner and MAF are smog parts, change how they function can cause damage to engine and automatic transmissions. 1. lousy, cheap CAI designs 2. Using shiny metal airbridge to look cool but instead the pipe stews in engine bay high temps which heats up the air inside and causes non normal AFR conditions. Also effect the IAT sensor reporting hotter air to PCM 3. Air turbulance causing MAF to report incorrect air mass. 4. over oiling the air cleaner causing MAF to get oil coated which causes MAF to report incorrectly 5. Not tuning PCM for the air mass and temp changes effects AFR 6. So called tuners doing a crap tune for those changes and causing AFR to be even worse. 7. air leaks from CAI to throttle cause unmetered air mass and effect how the PCM makes fuel/timing changes 8. super lean condition causing valve to come off stem and bust piston.  Stock pistons cannot handle higher cylinders temps due to all the above which causes super lean conditions. Ring lands of pistons are a weak point and higher heat due to lean conditions will cause them to break off. CAI can cause PCM to calculate line pressure incorrectly and cause auto trannie failures. |
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05-23-2010, 05:04 PM
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I've tuned alot of 2010's and seen some huge variences.Some cold airs will change the tunes minimul and some have actually thrown them off up to 30% on MA calibrations.99% of the time the owner will not feel it or ever know. They just think the car is fine because it's a bolt-on. |
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05-23-2010, 07:44 PM
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Which CAI do you have installed?
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05-24-2010, 02:39 AM
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Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009
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slp...tube and filter. Which uses the stock air box. And it don't have a tune everything is stock.
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05-24-2010, 06:32 AM
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05-24-2010, 06:50 AM
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05-24-2010, 09:47 AM
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Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: woodbridge, va
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yeah...let you guys know.
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05-24-2010, 12:56 PM
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i seriously doubt they can void your warranty because the tube and air filter is changed.
the slp intake is made of the same plastic as the stock pipe, and the panel filter was pre-oiled. i have never oiled my own filter, i'd rather buy a new one with the correct oil on it than attempt to go cheap and do it myself.
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