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lincoln361 · 01-08-2012, 09:46 PM

I have been thinking about getting a Fast Lsxr 102 manifold setup for my 2011 camaro SS L99. I have been reading reviews stating that you dont see much gains from this setup well at least for the L99. Does anybody have this on a automatic and tell me if it was worth it or not. Thanks in advance.

Juiced1 · 01-08-2012, 10:01 PM

You won't see much gain on a stock vehicle if any. If you plan on adding a big cam or a stroker motor it makes a ton of sense.

siriusdish · 01-08-2012, 10:07 PM

Look into Vmax ported as well.

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 01-08-2012, 10:08 PM

No.

Once you go FI or Big Cubes yes.

Port the factory one and pick up a NW TB unit and get it on!
Ivan

MikeOD · 01-09-2012, 06:21 PM

Depends where your goal for the vehicle lies...if you just want a basic bolt-on's car...I wouldn't bother...the $$$/HP ratio isn't really there for a car like that. If you want to go for the all out leave nothing on the table version of the car you want to build (and that version of the car is not a blower that'd replace the manifold)...then you can't not buy the FAST 102...a ported FAST 102 will hands down beat a stock or ported stock LS3 manifold...not by a lot, but it will beat it.

VADER SS L99 · 01-10-2012, 03:28 AM

You will loose power. I saw a test where the FAST lost power at every RPM until like 5k where it started to finally make power but only made a total of like 7RWHP. lol
The power it lost under the curve was big. This was on a Mast heads and VVT-2 cam with all boltons. The loss would have been even worse if you were putting it on a stock L99 heads and cam car. I would only use it on stroker combos or with a turbo or centri SC pumping into it.

brantley847 · 01-10-2012, 07:16 AM

....one test negates everything

MikeOD · 01-10-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

You will loose power. I saw a test where the FAST lost power at every RPM until like 5k where it started to finally make power but only made a total of like 7RWHP. lol
The power it lost under the curve was big. This was on a Mast heads and VVT-2 cam with all boltons. The loss would have been even worse if you were putting it on a stock L99 heads and cam car. I would only use it on stroker combos or with a turbo or centri SC pumping into it.

It's amazing what sponsorship money can do to test results.

JohnnyComeLately · 01-10-2012, 09:52 AM

I have it installed. There was not a decrease in power. I plan to go blown (ProCharger) and do some other mods so it fits in the master scheme. FWIW, I have lab results on multiple runs, multiple cars showing increases in HP.

VADER SS L99 · 01-10-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyComeLately

I have it installed. There was not a decrease in power. I plan to go blown (ProCharger) and do some other mods so it fits in the master scheme. FWIW, I have lab results on multiple runs, multiple cars showing increases in HP.

Throughout the rev range? On a mild LS3? Would like to see the results.

The FAST intake was great for 97-2000 LS1 engines even in stock form as it increased power quite a bit but our LS3 intake is much, much better than the LS1 intake.

MikeOD · 01-10-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Throughout the rev range? On a mild LS3? Would like to see the results.

The FAST intake was great for 97-2000 LS1 engines even in stock form as it increased power quite a bit but our LS3 intake is much, much better than the LS1 intake.

They don't advertise it as making as much over stock either because you're right, the stock LS3 manifold is better than the older LS1 and LS2 manifolds were (and to some extent probably better than the LS6 was as well)...but you definitely don't lose power with it.

brantley847 · 01-10-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeOD

It's amazing what sponsorship money can do to test results.

..you better stop making sense ASAP... we will have NONE of that.

pyr0b0y · 01-10-2012, 12:53 PM

just cave in....you know you want one! haha

Go Fast Kid · 01-10-2012, 05:04 PM

I installed the FAST intake on my LS7 427 ci, fully balanced , blueprinted, forged motor. 305 cc MAST heads, B&B header and exhaust system, cold air intake, full tune.

Not only did the motor lose power, their fuel rails do not fit their intake exactly square without grinding. The idler pulley interferes with the throttle body because the FAST manifold is not dimensionally exact to the stock manifold.

They left two fasterners and the pulley shim out of the box, I called to ask if they would sell me the missing parts, answer was no.

Save your money.

01-08-2012, 09:46 PM	#1
lincoln361 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: corpus christi tx Posts: 1,046 View My Garage	Fast Lsxr 102 worth it for L99? I have been thinking about getting a Fast Lsxr 102 manifold setup for my 2011 camaro SS L99. I have been reading reviews stating that you dont see much gains from this setup well at least for the L99. Does anybody have this on a automatic and tell me if it was worth it or not. Thanks in advance.

01-08-2012, 10:01 PM	#2
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	You won't see much gain on a stock vehicle if any. If you plan on adding a big cam or a stroker motor it makes a ton of sense. Last edited by Juiced1; 01-10-2012 at 05:20 PM.

01-08-2012, 10:07 PM	#3
siriusdish Drives: 2010 Camaro L99 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Erie PA Posts: 1,226	Look into Vmax ported as well. __________________ 2010 L99 vararam intake, Vmax TB,Vmax Intake,TSP VVT 3 Cam,TSP underdrive pulley,Yank 3600,TM Cooler,ARH 2", High Flow cats, X-pipe, GM Pro mufflers, RX Catch Can,160 stat, BMR Trailing,toe,Cradle insert, Diff. Bushings, End links, Spohn-LCA's (Touring)Wheel spacer's. 422 rwhp Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFNAhCL7Os

01-09-2012, 06:21 PM	#5
MikeOD Drives: 2010 M6 2SS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: South Windsor, CT Posts: 1,202	Depends where your goal for the vehicle lies...if you just want a basic bolt-on's car...I wouldn't bother...the $$$/HP ratio isn't really there for a car like that. If you want to go for the all out leave nothing on the table version of the car you want to build (and that version of the car is not a blower that'd replace the manifold)...then you can't not buy the FAST 102...a ported FAST 102 will hands down beat a stock or ported stock LS3 manifold...not by a lot, but it will beat it. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS M6. Heads/Cam/Intake/Headers/Exhaust/Suspension

01-10-2012, 03:28 AM	#6
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	You will loose power. I saw a test where the FAST lost power at every RPM until like 5k where it started to finally make power but only made a total of like 7RWHP. lol The power it lost under the curve was big. This was on a Mast heads and VVT-2 cam with all boltons. The loss would have been even worse if you were putting it on a stock L99 heads and cam car. I would only use it on stroker combos or with a turbo or centri SC pumping into it. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

01-08-2012, 10:08 PM	#4
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 12,170	No. Once you go FI or Big Cubes yes. Port the factory one and pick up a NW TB unit and get it on! Ivan

01-10-2012, 07:16 AM	#7
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,585	....one test negates everything __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

01-10-2012, 09:52 AM	#9
JohnnyComeLately Drives: 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 311	I have it installed. There was not a decrease in power. I plan to go blown (ProCharger) and do some other mods so it fits in the master scheme. FWIW, I have lab results on multiple runs, multiple cars showing increases in HP. __________________ Both my rides will smoke ya 2010 L99 2SS/RS - Hertz HE HSK 165 components/PPI A404 & A600/JL Audio 10W6/Audio Control EQX, FAST Intake Manifold

01-10-2012, 12:53 PM	#13
pyr0b0y need....more....hp Drives: The Neighbor Hater Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 4,091	just cave in....you know you want one! haha __________________ BUILD THREAD BUILT AND MAINTAINED BY BLU808 Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims

01-10-2012, 05:04 PM	#14
Go Fast Kid Drives: Camaro 2010 SS LS7 427ci Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 61	LSX FAST intake I installed the FAST intake on my LS7 427 ci, fully balanced , blueprinted, forged motor. 305 cc MAST heads, B&B header and exhaust system, cold air intake, full tune. Not only did the motor lose power, their fuel rails do not fit their intake exactly square without grinding. The idler pulley interferes with the throttle body because the FAST manifold is not dimensionally exact to the stock manifold. They left two fasterners and the pulley shim out of the box, I called to ask if they would sell me the missing parts, answer was no. Save your money.

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