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c-dub · 11-16-2010, 12:26 PM

WTF,
I am a chevy guy through and through, but why does the chevrolet brand keep getting beat out by fords? Not only does the 2011 mustang have more power, less weight and reportedly nicer interior than the camaro, now it has a cheaper supercharger that generates more hp. This is crappy, and it really bummed me out.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100829895

TommyTSquared · 11-16-2010, 12:27 PM

notsureifserious.jpg

SS 376 · 11-16-2010, 12:31 PM

In before the lock:troll:

OP, if you are that broken-hearted, go buy a 5.0.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 11-16-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-dub

WTF,
I am a chevy guy through and through, but why does the chevrolet brand keep getting beat out by fords? Not only does the 2011 mustang have more power, less weight and reportedly nicer interior than the camaro, now it has a cheaper supercharger that generates more hp. This is crappy, and it really bummed me out.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100829895

Thats appears to be a Roush Stage 3, it's not a regular production vehicle... you pay a massive premium for it, therefore, go out and buy a whipple, or a maggie or any of a number of other F/I options and you can out run it with no problem, provided said forced induction is properly installed and tuned...

*radz28* · 11-16-2010, 12:33 PM

I don't see it...

Unless they're using a RWHP rating, LS3 still makes more power, with LEGAL SC kits (i.e. Maggie, and KB and Whipple pending). LS3s are putting down right around, what, 500 to the tire with the canned tune, and L99s are't far behind. It's looking like there's even more (albeit at slightly higher boost) from the twin screws that are seeking 50-State certifications, so where, besides cost, are we falling behind? That's a TUNER kit, too, which to me, means it's not a complete kit with everything; tuner kits for CAMAROs often lack tunes, belts, and other ancillaries to allow the customer's tuner to tailor the package to the customer's taste and preferrences. Not really apples to apples if I'm understanding your post correctly.

2010 SSRS · 11-16-2010, 12:34 PM

Camaro is still king

2010 Bumblebee · 11-16-2010, 12:35 PM

I looked at a real nice 2011 shelby GT500 last night. The motor is a 5.4 but the heads look wide and the motor looks crammed into the car. It's like all motor. Someone age 40 bought this one and returned it because it was too fast for him.. I guess he couldn't control his foot well.

v6sonoma · 11-16-2010, 12:36 PM

Funny I thought this was cheaper and could get you to over 600 hp http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ek+Google+Base

And the LS3's connecting rods will be in one piece when you're done.

TommyTSquared · 11-16-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 Bumblebee

I looked at a real nice 2011 shelby GT500 last night. The motor is a 5.4 but the heads look wide and the motor looks crammed into the car. It's like all motor. Someone age 40 bought this one and returned it because it was too fast for him.. I guess he couldn't control his foot well.

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c-dub · 11-16-2010, 12:38 PM

the article said 5,999 and 550 hp, while magnacharger claims 492 hp and a price of almost 7k and up

http://www.magnacharger.com/magnacha...ger-system.htm

c-dub · 11-16-2010, 12:39 PM

I love camaro's but like I said, it just bums me out to see that ford is putting stuff out there like this. it seems like only camaro guys know that we have more power and options while the rest of the world things that mustang is boss now because of articles like this and no answer from chevy.

jdenotter · 11-16-2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-dub

WTF,
I am a chevy guy through and through, but why does the chevrolet brand keep getting beat out by fords? Not only does the 2011 mustang have more power, less weight and reportedly nicer interior than the camaro, now it has a cheaper supercharger that generates more hp. This is crappy, and it really bummed me out.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100829895

If you worried about keeping up with every upgrade from another car manufacturer then youre likely to pull you hair out. Be happy with what you have and remember there's always someone faster. So why worry yourself?

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v6sonoma · 11-16-2010, 12:42 PM

I wouldn't worry too much. People are still buying just as many Camaros as they were before. So clearly they don't care about the Mustang too much.

2010 Bumblebee · 11-16-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-dub

the article said 5,999 and 550 hp, while magnacharger claims 492 hp and a price of almost 7k and up

http://www.magnacharger.com/magnacha...ger-system.htm

one is flywheel Hp and the other rear wheel Hp, just add 50-75 hp to the rear wheel Hp with the camaro stock gearing and you have the same. You lose Hp thru the tranny and R-end, but that can be deceiving because if you have low gears you can multiply it. The true HP rating is at the flywheel.

11-16-2010, 12:26 PM	#1
c-dub It's that guy Drives: 2011 SIM SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hopewell VA Posts: 673 View My Garage	Mustangs just keep beating us WTF, I am a chevy guy through and through, but why does the chevrolet brand keep getting beat out by fords? Not only does the 2011 mustang have more power, less weight and reportedly nicer interior than the camaro, now it has a cheaper supercharger that generates more hp. This is crappy, and it really bummed me out. http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010...NEWS/100829895 __________________ We mortals are but shadows and dust.

11-16-2010, 12:33 PM	#5
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	I don't see it... Unless they're using a RWHP rating, LS3 still makes more power, with LEGAL SC kits (i.e. Maggie, and KB and Whipple pending). LS3s are putting down right around, what, 500 to the tire with the canned tune, and L99s are't far behind. It's looking like there's even more (albeit at slightly higher boost) from the twin screws that are seeking 50-State certifications, so where, besides cost, are we falling behind? That's a TUNER kit, too, which to me, means it's not a complete kit with everything; tuner kits for CAMAROs often lack tunes, belts, and other ancillaries to allow the customer's tuner to tailor the package to the customer's taste and preferrences. Not really apples to apples if I'm understanding your post correctly. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

11-16-2010, 12:34 PM	#6
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	Camaro is still king __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

11-16-2010, 12:35 PM	#7
2010 Bumblebee Drives: Transformers Edition Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mass Posts: 1,048 View My Garage	2010 GT500 I looked at a real nice 2011 shelby GT500 last night. The motor is a 5.4 but the heads look wide and the motor looks crammed into the car. It's like all motor. Someone age 40 bought this one and returned it because it was too fast for him.. I guess he couldn't control his foot well. Attached Images __________________ The Yellow Camaro Club http://www.camaro5.com/forums/group.php?groupid=128 Northern Massachusetts & Southern New Hampshire Camaro Club http://www.camaro5.com/forums/group.php?groupid=127 The mother of all supercharger questions thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77958 My 2010 Camaro Review http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2025442#post2025442 2010 Transformer Edition Camaro L99 Auto

11-16-2010, 12:36 PM	#8
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	Funny I thought this was cheaper and could get you to over 600 hp http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/...ek+Google+Base And the LS3's connecting rods will be in one piece when you're done. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

11-16-2010, 12:27 PM	#2
TommyTSquared Drives: RSSS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 2,492	notsureifserious.jpg

11-16-2010, 12:31 PM	#3
SS 376 Drives: 2010 IBM 1SS (Former) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,032	In before the lock:troll: OP, if you are that broken-hearted, go buy a 5.0.

11-16-2010, 12:38 PM	#10
c-dub It's that guy Drives: 2011 SIM SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hopewell VA Posts: 673 View My Garage	the article said 5,999 and 550 hp, while magnacharger claims 492 hp and a price of almost 7k and up http://www.magnacharger.com/magnacha...ger-system.htm __________________ We mortals are but shadows and dust.

11-16-2010, 12:39 PM	#11
c-dub It's that guy Drives: 2011 SIM SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hopewell VA Posts: 673 View My Garage	I love camaro's but like I said, it just bums me out to see that ford is putting stuff out there like this. it seems like only camaro guys know that we have more power and options while the rest of the world things that mustang is boss now because of articles like this and no answer from chevy. __________________ We mortals are but shadows and dust.

11-16-2010, 12:42 PM	#13
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	I wouldn't worry too much. People are still buying just as many Camaros as they were before. So clearly they don't care about the Mustang too much. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

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