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Dfault · 03-19-2014, 10:19 AM

I have squeal and it's not your typical slow stop squeal most of you experience. This is, straight up horrible squeal that makes you want to put a screw into your ears to stop hearing, squeal.

I don't think the rotors are supposed to look like this.

Bo White · 03-19-2014, 11:37 AM

You can have a squeal from the surface of the rotor itself, the pads or the hardware or a mixture of those. New hardware that is lubed, quality pads that are beveled, rotors with a nondirectional finish is about all you can do. The rotors do look a little slick but do still have a touch of nondirectional still left in the close up.

Dfault · 03-19-2014, 11:43 AM

Should I go ahead and have the rotors turned?

Bo White · 03-19-2014, 03:11 PM

No, machining rotors is only needed if they are out of spec on run out. The surface texture is what is in question once the run out has been measured and is within tolerance. What I do is use a diegrinder and put a 3M wheel on it and buff the rotor surface area and make a nondirectional surface into the rotor. Problem about that is it will eventually buff slick by the pad but hopefully you bed enough pad material into the rotor that it doesn't create unwanted harmonics.

1KillerSS · 03-19-2014, 03:18 PM

sounds like there not bedding them properly...have they told you that they do that?
cuz they need to if they havent

Dfault · 03-21-2014, 06:48 PM

I had a shop tell me that they believe it's the calipers since my rotors have heat streaks where they are constantly heating up unevenly. What do yall think? How would I go about finding out if my calipers need replacing without throwing unnecessary money at my car?

Bo White · 03-21-2014, 07:02 PM

Jack the car up and roll test each wheel and see how much drag each has. If there is a drag one one then you need to see if its the caliper or the hose or something on up stream.

Dfault · 03-21-2014, 08:47 PM

I'll give that a shot. But wouldn't calipers be under warranty as hardware failure before 5 years and 100k?

Bo White · 03-22-2014, 09:12 AM

Not sure. Doubt it unless you have extended warranty.

Dfault · 03-22-2014, 09:52 PM

I just really want a sure answer on what the problem is. I just hope that the dealer won't charge me too much just to see what's wrong with the car. I don't want to get rid of my 2010 because of a few things that it doesn't have that make me want to keep it longer.

If it comes down to it being too expensive to fix the brake issues, I'll just put new rotors and pads and trade her in and get a new 2014 and put the 2010 steering wheel on it.

Romeloc · 03-25-2014, 07:56 AM

im going thru the ish my barkes sounds like bus. loud as hell

Ret Fuzz · 03-25-2014, 09:21 AM

Good advice from Bo

03-19-2014, 10:19 AM	#1
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	3rd set of rotos/pads and still issues I have squeal and it's not your typical slow stop squeal most of you experience. This is, straight up horrible squeal that makes you want to put a screw into your ears to stop hearing, squeal. I don't think the rotors are supposed to look like this.

03-19-2014, 11:37 AM	#2
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	You can have a squeal from the surface of the rotor itself, the pads or the hardware or a mixture of those. New hardware that is lubed, quality pads that are beveled, rotors with a nondirectional finish is about all you can do. The rotors do look a little slick but do still have a touch of nondirectional still left in the close up. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-19-2014, 03:11 PM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	No, machining rotors is only needed if they are out of spec on run out. The surface texture is what is in question once the run out has been measured and is within tolerance. What I do is use a diegrinder and put a 3M wheel on it and buff the rotor surface area and make a nondirectional surface into the rotor. Problem about that is it will eventually buff slick by the pad but hopefully you bed enough pad material into the rotor that it doesn't create unwanted harmonics. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-19-2014, 03:18 PM	#5
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	sounds like there not bedding them properly...have they told you that they do that? cuz they need to if they havent __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-21-2014, 07:02 PM	#7
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Jack the car up and roll test each wheel and see how much drag each has. If there is a drag one one then you need to see if its the caliper or the hose or something on up stream. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-19-2014, 11:43 AM	#3
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	Should I go ahead and have the rotors turned?

03-21-2014, 06:48 PM	#6
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	I had a shop tell me that they believe it's the calipers since my rotors have heat streaks where they are constantly heating up unevenly. What do yall think? How would I go about finding out if my calipers need replacing without throwing unnecessary money at my car?

03-21-2014, 08:47 PM	#8
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	I'll give that a shot. But wouldn't calipers be under warranty as hardware failure before 5 years and 100k?

03-22-2014, 09:12 AM	#9
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Not sure. Doubt it unless you have extended warranty. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-22-2014, 09:52 PM	#10
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	I just really want a sure answer on what the problem is. I just hope that the dealer won't charge me too much just to see what's wrong with the car. I don't want to get rid of my 2010 because of a few things that it doesn't have that make me want to keep it longer. If it comes down to it being too expensive to fix the brake issues, I'll just put new rotors and pads and trade her in and get a new 2014 and put the 2010 steering wheel on it.

03-25-2014, 07:56 AM	#11
Romeloc Drives: 2010 Black 2SS RS A6 Inferno Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,160	im going thru the ish my barkes sounds like bus. loud as hell __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2010 Camaro Black 2SS/RS A6 Inferno Interior Polished Rims, Sunroof Born 11/19/09 mods: 20% tints Borla Atak cat-bak Roto-Fab intake amber footwell, dome, and trunk lighting(AAC) Decepticon Gas door Led Taillights (technostalgia)

03-25-2014, 09:21 AM	#12
Ret Fuzz Banned Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: United States Posts: 255	Good advice from Bo