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CamaroDIYking · 05-28-2013, 01:04 AM

If I do the fuse pull to reset my fuel table, what will happen if I just keep the fuses out?

AmericanMuscleCars · 05-28-2013, 01:04 AM

I would like to see some responses I have no clue what a fuse pull even does...

Glen e · 05-28-2013, 01:23 AM

the fuses are part of the computer system, I doubt you'll go anywhere....when you pull the fuses you are resetting the electronics...

RIPws6 · 05-28-2013, 03:12 AM

The car wont start and you will be put on homeland security's watch list as being a well known douche.
lol! Jk!
The fuse pull resets the fuel table in the event that you taint your ride with low octane gas. Pull the 5 and 25 fuses, keep em out for anywhere from 5 minutes to a week (depending on who you ask) and put them back in. The table resets, and your horsepower is restored from the low fuel douchebaggery nightmare you created.
The end result is much like the sensation you get from an oil change. You feel great knowing you made the effort and played by the rules while your mind enhances the horsepower gained by 300%. If you try out the car using steel toed boots you will feel even better.
Even with the car adjusting to a lower table it still kicks ass. Most people driving to work, the grocery store or to a prostitute wont notice the .0007 seconds in a quarter mile they have gained.

slededorilllia · 05-28-2013, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIPws6

The car wont start and you will be put on homeland security's watch list as being a well known douche.
lol! Jk!
The fuse pull resets the fuel table in the event that you taint your ride with low octane gas. Pull the 5 and 25 fuses, keep em out for anywhere from 5 minutes to a week (depending on who you ask) and put them back in. The table resets, and your horsepower is restored from the low fuel douchebaggery nightmare you created.
The end result is much like the sensation you get from an oil change. You feel great knowing you made the effort and played by the rules while your mind enhances the horsepower gained by 300%. If you try out the car using steel toed boots you will feel even better.
Even with the car adjusting to a lower table it still kicks ass. Most people driving to work, the grocery store or to a prostitute wont notice the .0007 seconds in a quarter mile they have gained.

well if that's all i'm missing out on.....then no more being paranoid aboot (about) the 91 octane i'm putting in mine up here in the great white north, as all this talk of low octane gas and the 93 or 94 octane only available at certain places, gets me worried about my engine and the so called "extra performance" ......and possible engine damage.....

AirManFL · 05-28-2013, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIPws6

The car wont start and you will be put on homeland security's watch list as being a well known douche.
lol! Jk!
The fuse pull resets the fuel table in the event that you taint your ride with low octane gas. Pull the 5 and 25 fuses, keep em out for anywhere from 5 minutes to a week (depending on who you ask) and put them back in. The table resets, and your horsepower is restored from the low fuel douchebaggery nightmare you created.
The end result is much like the sensation you get from an oil change. You feel great knowing you made the effort and played by the rules while your mind enhances the horsepower gained by 300%. If you try out the car using steel toed boots you will feel even better.
Even with the car adjusting to a lower table it still kicks ass. Most people driving to work, the grocery store or to a prostitute wont notice the .0007 seconds in a quarter mile they have gained.

That would be fuse #5 and #20 and this thread is in the wrong section

Rob

Mchlgrrsn · 05-28-2013, 07:38 AM

You do know there is a STICKY THREAD about 6 inches up this very screen titled "fuse pull". It may contain the answers you seek.

Camaro_hx · 05-28-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

You do know there is a STICKY THREAD about 6 inches up this very screen titled "fuse pull". It may contain the answers you seek.

this "Fuse pull" icon folder is for this page

Mchlgrrsn · 05-28-2013, 08:36 AM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964
This what I was referring to ... 99 pages of questions and answers about the fuse pull. If it was read I doubt this thread would have been started.

slick rick · 05-28-2013, 12:00 PM

Try it and find out

Casperadub70 · 05-28-2013, 01:06 PM

Yes there is a sticky about this, however i read it ( most of it) and im still confused on why you need to pull these fuses?
From what ive gathered if you put bad gas in and then do these steps it will fix it? Is this simular to the fuse pull for the NPP exhaust? What ever that is?

05-28-2013, 01:23 PM

There is two octane timing tables.
High octane table Low octane

High octane will have the most advance timing under part throttle and wide open throttle.
Which will give you the most horsepower and torque.

Low octane will be the lowest advance timing under part and wide open throttle.
There will be a reduction in power on this mode.

What the PCM does is watch the knock sensor to determine what mode to use. If you have good gas, 91 or above. The engine can run the high octane map without knocking or needing to reduce timing. What happens when you run lower quality gas like 89 or below, or maybe even low quality 91. You can and will start to knock, it will not be something you will hear but the PCM will notice and reduce timing to an appropriate amount to protect the engine from pre destination or knock. If the PCM logs that it is pulling timing for extended amounts of time or pulling timing severely enough, the PCM will go to the Low Octane table to reduce the maximum amount of timing to combat the knock from the lower octane fuel. This will cause a drop in power as well.
What the camaro does as soon as your PCM moves to the Lower Octane table it will NOT move back. So you could be driving it around with high octane fuel in the tank but the pcm is still in low octane mode. If this happens you won't have the extra power or benefit of high octane fuel.
When you pull the fuse it allows the PCM to reset and it will use the high octane mode until it needs to switch again.

I dumbed it down so I hope it still makes sense.

Casperadub70 · 05-28-2013, 01:30 PM

Deff. Thanks alot. That clears up alot. Ive been on that sticky for awhile confused. Thanks again.

vroomapunk · 05-28-2013, 02:43 PM

You need the fuses, its not like you are turning off a system that gives you less power. You are simply resetting the fuel tables. You need whatever these fuses power.

I understand how it might seem, but its not like pulling a fuse and getting rid of traction control or torque management or AFM. Its not how any of that works. The fuse is cutting power completely to the module and forcing it to reset/calibrate.

05-28-2013, 01:04 AM	#1
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05-28-2013, 01:23 AM	#3
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	the fuses are part of the computer system, I doubt you'll go anywhere....when you pull the fuses you are resetting the electronics... __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

05-28-2013, 07:38 AM	#7
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	You do know there is a STICKY THREAD about 6 inches up this very screen titled "fuse pull". It may contain the answers you seek. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

05-28-2013, 08:36 AM	#9
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964 This what I was referring to ... 99 pages of questions and answers about the fuse pull. If it was read I doubt this thread would have been started. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

05-28-2013, 12:00 PM	#10
slick rick SoCal Mayhem Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 5,488 View My Garage	Try it and find out __________________

05-28-2013, 01:04 AM	#2
AmericanMuscleCars Teenage Dream Camaro Drives: A Visually Stunning Camaro Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,722	I would like to see some responses I have no clue what a fuse pull even does...

05-28-2013, 03:12 AM	#4
RIPws6 Drives: 2019 2SS Riverside Blue Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 311	The car wont start and you will be put on homeland security's watch list as being a well known douche. lol! Jk! The fuse pull resets the fuel table in the event that you taint your ride with low octane gas. Pull the 5 and 25 fuses, keep em out for anywhere from 5 minutes to a week (depending on who you ask) and put them back in. The table resets, and your horsepower is restored from the low fuel douchebaggery nightmare you created. The end result is much like the sensation you get from an oil change. You feel great knowing you made the effort and played by the rules while your mind enhances the horsepower gained by 300%. If you try out the car using steel toed boots you will feel even better. Even with the car adjusting to a lower table it still kicks ass. Most people driving to work, the grocery store or to a prostitute wont notice the .0007 seconds in a quarter mile they have gained.

05-28-2013, 01:06 PM	#11
Casperadub70 Drives: 2014 1LE Camaro, 95 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: America Posts: 940	Yes there is a sticky about this, however i read it ( most of it) and im still confused on why you need to pull these fuses? From what ive gathered if you put bad gas in and then do these steps it will fix it? Is this simular to the fuse pull for the NPP exhaust? What ever that is? __________________ 2014 1LE 2SS Camaro Recaro seats, Custom Cam, Kooks LT headers, CAI intake, Z/28 Spoiler, Z/28 Belly Pan, Z/28 Brake Air Ducts, Stainless Steel breaklines, BMR Toe Rods and Trailing Arms resulting in 482.49 RWHP

05-28-2013, 01:23 PM	#12
KlugSS Guest Posts: n/a View My Garage	There is two octane timing tables. High octane table Low octane High octane will have the most advance timing under part throttle and wide open throttle. Which will give you the most horsepower and torque. Low octane will be the lowest advance timing under part and wide open throttle. There will be a reduction in power on this mode. What the PCM does is watch the knock sensor to determine what mode to use. If you have good gas, 91 or above. The engine can run the high octane map without knocking or needing to reduce timing. What happens when you run lower quality gas like 89 or below, or maybe even low quality 91. You can and will start to knock, it will not be something you will hear but the PCM will notice and reduce timing to an appropriate amount to protect the engine from pre destination or knock. If the PCM logs that it is pulling timing for extended amounts of time or pulling timing severely enough, the PCM will go to the Low Octane table to reduce the maximum amount of timing to combat the knock from the lower octane fuel. This will cause a drop in power as well. What the camaro does as soon as your PCM moves to the Lower Octane table it will NOT move back. So you could be driving it around with high octane fuel in the tank but the pcm is still in low octane mode. If this happens you won't have the extra power or benefit of high octane fuel. When you pull the fuse it allows the PCM to reset and it will use the high octane mode until it needs to switch again. I dumbed it down so I hope it still makes sense.

05-28-2013, 01:30 PM	#13
Casperadub70 Drives: 2014 1LE Camaro, 95 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: America Posts: 940	Deff. Thanks alot. That clears up alot. Ive been on that sticky for awhile confused. Thanks again. __________________ 2014 1LE 2SS Camaro Recaro seats, Custom Cam, Kooks LT headers, CAI intake, Z/28 Spoiler, Z/28 Belly Pan, Z/28 Brake Air Ducts, Stainless Steel breaklines, BMR Toe Rods and Trailing Arms resulting in 482.49 RWHP

05-28-2013, 02:43 PM	#14
vroomapunk [COTW 5/12/14] Drives: 2012 CRT NF Cammed 2SS/RS For Sale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NOLA Posts: 6,115 View My Garage	You need the fuses, its not like you are turning off a system that gives you less power. You are simply resetting the fuel tables. You need whatever these fuses power. I understand how it might seem, but its not like pulling a fuse and getting rid of traction control or torque management or AFM. Its not how any of that works. The fuse is cutting power completely to the module and forcing it to reset/calibrate. __________________