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bayarea408 · 01-20-2017, 07:54 PM

OP, could be a battery issue. I have had odd symptoms prior to a bad battery when my car was just n/a bolton's. If the battery does not hold much juice, the power hungry system will show odd signs.

Maybe look at the battery taps for battery acid or corrosion if there is you can use baking soda and warm water to clean it up.

camarosspower · 01-20-2017, 09:23 PM

It's a new battery. He tried taking it to the dealer to get it diagnosed and they said they won't touch it lol

1KillerSS · 01-20-2017, 09:25 PM

Don't waste time at the dealer. Does he have a shop scanner? Can you see crank counts?

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camarosspower · 01-20-2017, 09:37 PM

I believe he is taking it to a shop tomorrow. I'm sure they would have a scanner

1KillerSS · 01-20-2017, 09:40 PM

The basics are key, fuel, air, and spark. Don't get caught up with all the mods of the car, and think that the realm of the problem is in those mods. Do your basics first.

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Moreair1 · 01-20-2017, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by camarosspower

It's a new battery. He tried taking it to the dealer to get it diagnosed and they said they won't touch it lol

Thats probably the best thing they could of said, unless im just unlucky dealers usually damage something or are clueless even on my old 2002 car I had a tech tell me 3.73s wouldnt fit in a gm 10 bolt rear

camarosspower · 01-20-2017, 10:26 PM

OK well the car won't start normally through the ignition I mean. He pushed it down the driveway popped the clutch and it starts. I'll post a link to a video. The engine doesn't sound too good.

camarosspower · 01-20-2017, 10:48 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOVZ-dCugo

Here it is

1KillerSS · 01-21-2017, 01:26 AM

Will it fire up with either?

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bayarea408 · 01-21-2017, 01:40 AM

How much power does this car make?

It sounds like rod knock from a spun bearing. But I hope it's a misfiring crank position issue. Look into the harness towards the pcm hopefully they aren't damaged.

1KillerSS · 01-21-2017, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosspower

.................DTC code read c2711 on the aeroforce gauges. ............codes P0335 and p0336 are showing after he changed them. .................

I have never seen that C code, nor can I find a DTC for it. Are you sure that's it starts with a C? Obviously the other two codes are from the crankshaft position sensor and it not being relearned. Makes sense why it won't fire up. Not saying that is your answer, but a relearn will have to be done. Push starting the car, vs getting it to start on either, helps narrow the possible causes down.

I am sure the shop that has the car now will get it sorted.

Unreal · 01-21-2017, 07:43 AM

If car starts being pushed started like that, it isn't a melted harness/etc unless it is just the starter harness.

Sounds like someting cam apart. Valve spring, rocker, lifter, etc. Don't run it until you figure that out.

camarosspower · 01-21-2017, 08:51 AM

The car made 730 on a loaded mustang dyno. He is going to take the starter and alternator off and troubleshoot those before going to the shop. Still has to the relearn procedure on the cam sensor

mrimpala02 · 01-21-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

If car starts being pushed started like that, it isn't a melted harness/etc unless it is just the starter harness.

Sounds like someting cam apart. Valve spring, rocker, lifter, etc. Don't run it until you figure that out.

It really does sound like a valve train issue. I had a similar sound a while back turned out to be a failed lifter. Had to get new lifters and new cam. I wouldn't run it much and drain the oil and look for any metal. Perhaps a oil analysis would be good too.

01-20-2017, 09:25 PM	#17
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Don't waste time at the dealer. Does he have a shop scanner? Can you see crank counts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

01-20-2017, 09:40 PM	#19
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	The basics are key, fuel, air, and spark. Don't get caught up with all the mods of the car, and think that the realm of the problem is in those mods. Do your basics first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

01-21-2017, 01:26 AM	#23
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Will it fire up with either? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

01-21-2017, 07:43 AM	#26
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	If car starts being pushed started like that, it isn't a melted harness/etc unless it is just the starter harness. Sounds like someting cam apart. Valve spring, rocker, lifter, etc. Don't run it until you figure that out. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

01-21-2017, 08:51 AM	#27
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	The car made 730 on a loaded mustang dyno. He is going to take the starter and alternator off and troubleshoot those before going to the shop. Still has to the relearn procedure on the cam sensor Attached Images

01-20-2017, 07:54 PM	#15
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	OP, could be a battery issue. I have had odd symptoms prior to a bad battery when my car was just n/a bolton's. If the battery does not hold much juice, the power hungry system will show odd signs. Maybe look at the battery taps for battery acid or corrosion if there is you can use baking soda and warm water to clean it up.

01-20-2017, 09:23 PM	#16
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	It's a new battery. He tried taking it to the dealer to get it diagnosed and they said they won't touch it lol

01-20-2017, 09:37 PM	#18
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	I believe he is taking it to a shop tomorrow. I'm sure they would have a scanner

01-20-2017, 10:26 PM	#21
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	OK well the car won't start normally through the ignition I mean. He pushed it down the driveway popped the clutch and it starts. I'll post a link to a video. The engine doesn't sound too good.

01-20-2017, 10:48 PM	#22
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWOVZ-dCugo Here it is

01-21-2017, 01:40 AM	#24
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	How much power does this car make? It sounds like rod knock from a spun bearing. But I hope it's a misfiring crank position issue. Look into the harness towards the pcm hopefully they aren't damaged.