Project clutch master cylinder/second gear grind

[camarostar2010]

Listen friends. ...I can attest that this is a must do for any m6...The more I drive the more I sense the difference. Been about 2 weeks I think. I can actually hear a small click while depressing the clutch...and i know its from the added force of the fluid and I feel the disengagement of the clutch where as with stock I some times wondered if the shift was actually complete. Also I remember that in hot weather and stop and go traffic my clutch felt too soft and mushy...now its much harder. The product is worth it ...not only that...being that Ideal did the install I met the guys, and I can say they are good people all around.

[2010SSRSM6]

Originally Posted by IDEALG

what clutch are you using? others have had trouble with sticking pedals and my master resolved their problem. you shouldn't need to adjust your clutch.

I have ACT's twin and Ram's slave. Car's getting towed back to the shop on Monday so the transmission can come out yet again. I'm going to assume the new billet slave failed due to the lack of fluid in the res and how quickly it leaves when I tried to refill and bleed the system. I'm about to blow a gasket over this damn transmission!


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[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by 2010SSRSM6

I have ACT's twin and Ram's slave. Car's getting towed back to the shop on Monday so the transmission can come out yet again. I'm going to assume the new billet slave failed due to the lack of fluid in the res and how quickly it leaves when I tried to refill and bleed the system. I'm about to blow a gasket over this damn transmission!


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someone else here had trouble with a Ram slave and then the second one they installed was ok.

Make sure the Ram slave is adjusted properly

[IDEALG]

IDEALG will be taking a week vacation for the SEMA show October 28th - November 4th

So any orders that week will be shipped out monday November 5th.


Dad will be in the shop if anyone has any technical questions but he will not be shipping out orders.


Thank you
Jerry
Ideal Garage

[Retro69]

Enjoy your time off! You deserve it!

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[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by Retro69

Enjoy your time off! You deserve it!

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thanks!

[was619]

So I have had my MC installed for a few days and noticed that as I depress the pedal the last half inch or so before it hits the bottom needs a bit more pressure as if its trying to compress the fluid in the slave to move the slave more than it normally would

Also I notice that the position which the clutch engages is right after the stock return spring trys to push your foot up faster

any Impute would be great.
thanks
Will

[2012-2SS]

Originally Posted by was619

So I have had my MC installed for a few days and noticed that as I depress the pedal the last half inch or so before it hits the bottom needs a bit more pressure as if its trying to compress the fluid in the slave to move the slave more than it normally would

Also I notice that the position which the clutch engages is right after the stock return spring trys to push your foot up faster

any Impute would be great.
thanks
Will

Sounds like you need to bleed the clutch a little more. Make sure you exercise the pedal through its full range of motion.

The factory pedal is designed to assist in holding the clutch pedal down and then help return the pedal the last few inches. If you're unsure disconnect the master cylinder and run the pedal through its range of motion.

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[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by was619

So I have had my MC installed for a few days and noticed that as I depress the pedal the last half inch or so before it hits the bottom needs a bit more pressure as if its trying to compress the fluid in the slave to move the slave more than it normally would

Also I notice that the position which the clutch engages is right after the stock return spring trys to push your foot up faster

any Impute would be great.
thanks
Will

Also give us a little more detail on whats going on?

I think you need to bleed the system again.
You should feel a little more pressure then previously with the stock master but it's only a little.

what we have been doing now is disconnecting the hydraulic clutch line at the trans and then bleeding the master cylinder and the line first. you use your finger as a bleeder on the end of the hydraulic line while someone else pushes up and down on the pedal. once you get the master cylinder and line full of fluid with no air then connect the line back up and then bleed the the whole system from the bleeder screw on the slave cylinder. it makes it easier this way to get all the air out of the system.

[was619]

Originally Posted by IDEALG

Also give us a little more detail on whats going on?

I think you need to bleed the system again.
You should feel a little more pressure then previously with the stock master but it's only a little.

what we have been doing now is disconnecting the hydraulic clutch line at the trans and then bleeding the master cylinder and the line first. you use your finger as a bleeder on the end of the hydraulic line while someone else pushes up and down on the pedal. once you get the master cylinder and line full of fluid with no air then connect the line back up and then bleed the the whole system from the bleeder screw on the slave cylinder. it makes it easier this way to get all the air out of the system.

I will try this method of bleeding it again! Thanks guys!

[Ventmaster]

Here's another THANK-YOU IDEALG!!
Guess I'm gonna keep this bucket of bolts a little longer after all!

After a re-bleed just to be sure, and a fresh engine oil change- I got the chance to put the spurs to her!

Hard/fast 1-2 shifts (and2-3, and 3-4) at redline and beyond, with no crunch, no grind, no problem!!
I'm using stock DOT#3 fluid, OE hydraulic lines, and OE gear oil in the trans- so it's got to be the new mastercylinder.

If you've still got a grind after this mod I'd suggest a re-bleed or maybe your synchro has already succumbed to too many crunches.

Get one before your synchro's throw in the towel!

[Steve@HPE]

I returned the stock master cylinder but have yet to received the $50 core deposit

[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by Steve@HPE

I returned the stock master cylinder but have yet to received the $50 core deposit

I posted several times already i'm no longer doing the core returns.

I can't use your cores, And i kept receiving broken cores anyway.

PM sent Steve

[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by Ventmaster

Here's another THANK-YOU IDEALG!!
Guess I'm gonna keep this bucket of bolts a little longer after all!

After a re-bleed just to be sure, and a fresh engine oil change- I got the chance to put the spurs to her!

Hard/fast 1-2 shifts (and2-3, and 3-4) at redline and beyond, with no crunch, no grind, no problem!!
I'm using stock DOT#3 fluid, OE hydraulic lines, and OE gear oil in the trans- so it's got to be the new mastercylinder.

If you've still got a grind after this mod I'd suggest a re-bleed or maybe your synchro has already succumbed to too many crunches.

Get one before your synchro's throw in the towel!

Glad you got it going. enjoy now