2010 Camaro Rear End, strong? weak?? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

the rich dude · 08-02-2009, 03:29 PM

So whats the deal with the stock Camaro SS rear end? I've heard it can handle 700 Hp easily from some and others are saying there breaking left and right?? Whats the truth and what exactly is breaking on the rear end? I'm looking to make my car a 650 HP everyday driver and don't want to be spitting rear ends out all the time. Thanks.

camaro1 · 08-02-2009, 04:17 PM

so far all i have heard of is some axle shaft failures, but someone on here was making hd axleshafts for around $1800 if i remember correctly

jpsuperman81 · 08-02-2009, 04:41 PM

There was a limited problem with the output shafts in a select number of manual v8 trannys. It has been diagnosed and is being resolved. The tranny is tremec and is proven in vettes, vipers, stangs and everything else. All of those cars use some version of tremec and the ss didn't get a bad version just some of them got a few bad parts. It was not widespread. I think your safe in the 600 to 700 hp range.

GFORCE1320 · 08-07-2009, 02:20 PM

There has been a few people breaking the axle shafts, not the inner or outer stubs but the shaft itself.
The inner and outer stubs are huge in comparison to the GTO IRS. It's the axle shafts that are the weak link.

Speed74SS · 08-15-2009, 12:18 PM

I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.

JM10 · 08-15-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed74SS

I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.

Stock tires or Drag radials?

JM

rayhawk · 08-15-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GFORCE1320

There has been a few people breaking the axle shafts, not the inner or outer stubs but the shaft itself.
The inner and outer stubs are huge in comparison to the GTO IRS. It's the axle shafts that are the weak link.

Have you seen pictures of these broken shafts? The only pictures I have seen were on ls1tech and it was actually the inner ball race of the cv joint that broke, not the shaft. From others descriptions, it is hard to be sure what is actually failing. Either way, I'm not sure if these are defective parts or if they are simply a marginally sized cv joint. Based on some in the 11's on stock units, as well as the failure mode (several not even at full power) of the shafts/cv joints, I believe the failed ones were probably just defective, similar to the tailshaft issue.

Speed74SS · 08-15-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JM10

Stock tires or Drag radials?

JM

Stock tires

FastSSCamaro · 08-17-2009, 11:18 AM

What did you run at the track with that package?

nuptualnemesis · 08-13-2010, 01:32 PM

Broke my positive traction unit with 470 rwhp. Launched on Nitto DR's with 4 or 5 wheel hops.

Turbobitt · 08-13-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the rich dude

So whats the deal with the stock Camaro SS rear end? I've heard it can handle 700 Hp easily from some and others are saying there breaking left and right?? Whats the truth and what exactly is breaking on the rear end? I'm looking to make my car a 650 HP everyday driver and don't want to be spitting rear ends out all the time. Thanks.

Look at my post about the axle half shafts.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97387

I ran it about 10 passes at the track without issues. I did one small burn-out and power shift and broke the passenger side. It didn't break into two pieces or at the shaft itself.
BTW - Car is 100% stock.

Allan G.

epstein · 08-13-2010, 02:38 PM

What Dealer did you take it to?....... When its returned can you post the new revised part number?

VADER SS L99 · 08-15-2010, 03:57 AM

The rear end is strong and only needs upgraded axles for your intended power goal. The stock rear center section has lived fine in 9 second cars.

Hendrix-Engineering · 08-15-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

The rear end is strong and only needs upgraded axles for your intended power goal. The stock rear center section has lived fine in 9 second cars.

I would disagree,first there has only been a handfull of 9 second passes and most of the time those are types of cars that dont get many miles on them,in other words the next pass could be the rears last.Most cars that run great times use a smaller rim than the 20 inch stock wheel therefore giving the rear a big cusion since it has alot more sidewall to soften the hit. We have seen many,many failures with the stock rear and aftermarket gears due to the size of the gear and the weight of the camaro. You can have a lot less power than the 9 second guys and granade your rear with the much smaller sidewall that your 20s have.

08-02-2009, 03:29 PM	#1
the rich dude Drives: Getting 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,149	2010 Camaro Rear End, strong? weak?? So whats the deal with the stock Camaro SS rear end? I've heard it can handle 700 Hp easily from some and others are saying there breaking left and right?? Whats the truth and what exactly is breaking on the rear end? I'm looking to make my car a 650 HP everyday driver and don't want to be spitting rear ends out all the time. Thanks.

08-02-2009, 04:17 PM	#2
camaro1 Drives: 550+RWHP 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,588	so far all i have heard of is some axle shaft failures, but someone on here was making hd axleshafts for around $1800 if i remember correctly __________________ 415ci stroker, TVS 2300 Magnacharger, cnc heads, cam, yank ss3200 converter, Kooks long tubes, Bwoody true cold air kit, ZL1 Pump, magnaflow 3" cat-back, lowering springs,BMR control arms and tie rod bars, 3.73 gears, diff mounts, RX can, ADM fuel controller

08-15-2010, 03:57 AM	#13
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	The rear end is strong and only needs upgraded axles for your intended power goal. The stock rear center section has lived fine in 9 second cars. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

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08-02-2009, 04:41 PM	#3
jpsuperman81 Yep I'm back! Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indian Trail, NC Posts: 2,565 View My Garage	There was a limited problem with the output shafts in a select number of manual v8 trannys. It has been diagnosed and is being resolved. The tranny is tremec and is proven in vettes, vipers, stangs and everything else. All of those cars use some version of tremec and the ss didn't get a bad version just some of them got a few bad parts. It was not widespread. I think your safe in the 600 to 700 hp range.

08-07-2009, 02:20 PM	#4
GFORCE1320 Drives: 05 GTO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,243	There has been a few people breaking the axle shafts, not the inner or outer stubs but the shaft itself. The inner and outer stubs are huge in comparison to the GTO IRS. It's the axle shafts that are the weak link.

08-15-2009, 12:18 PM	#5
Speed74SS Drives: 2010 LPE 650+ CTS-V Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,640	I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.

08-17-2009, 11:18 AM	#9
FastSSCamaro Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FL Posts: 10	What did you run at the track with that package?

08-13-2010, 01:32 PM	#10
nuptualnemesis NuptualNemesis Drives: Silver 1SS M6 - 480hp 11.57/120.79 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA www.Divorcefor399.com Posts: 310 View My Garage	Broke my positive traction unit with 470 rwhp. Launched on Nitto DR's with 4 or 5 wheel hops.

08-13-2010, 02:38 PM	#12
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	What Dealer did you take it to?....... When its returned can you post the new revised part number?