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thunderkyss · 06-20-2015, 03:19 PM

Just wondering if you guys who've never taken your Camaro to the track, do you feel like you've been able to push this car to it's limits?

Do you have any favorite roads where you feel you can push this car & not be a danger to your fellow motorist?

trashmanssd · 06-20-2015, 03:39 PM

not even close best case maybe 50 percent for few seconds.

KaBoom1701 · 06-20-2015, 03:40 PM

I drive 8 /10ths when I go to the track.

USAFS197 · 06-20-2015, 03:59 PM

There are quite a few secluded roads that I can push the car to but, I don't go all-out. If I had a drag strip in my backyard, I prolly wouldn't even go, then. Now if I had a road course near by, I'd be all over that.

For what it's worth, I've done both but, I'm done with the whole drag racing thing.

Homeless Man · 06-20-2015, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by USAFS197

There are quite a few secluded roads that I can push the car to but, I don't go all-out. If I had a drag strip in my backyard, I prolly wouldn't even go, then. Now if I had a road course near by, I'd be all over that.

For what it's worth, I've done both but, I'm done with the whole drag racing thing.

Why are u done with drag racing

backeddy · 06-20-2015, 04:40 PM

Unless you have done 1000's of laps in the car, I doubt you are anywhere near the limits, not a chance on 50%....Here is the lap time progression at Laguna Seca after close to 1200 laps, and I was an experienced driver long beforehand.

First time 1:58XX
End of first day 1:55xx (TEMPS MID 50'S)

Second time 1:55-1:56 (TEMPS MID 50'S)

6th time 1:52-1:54 (TEMPS MID 50'S)

20th time 1:48 Consistent (temps 60's) (out of brakes)

25th time Brake limited at 1:46 consistent (race brakes overheating all day) (temps mid 60's)

30 time zl1 brake upgrade 1:47 consistent (Stock ZL1 pads slower than 4 piston race setup)

Now 1:42-1:43 (zl1 race bakes and fully ducted)( Lap times are limited by the tires at 70 degree temps)

So there is my 2 cents....I am at the limits, as I am out of tire grip (eagle F1G2's) and it take a LOT of wheel/track time to be comfortable where I am. I have taken dozens of camaro owners for ride alongs, first thing they all say is that I am psycho then they get back in there own cars and are comfortable pushing much harder. Find some that knows the car and go for a ride........

flyer08 · 06-20-2015, 04:51 PM

Been to track and popular motorcycle roads (nationally known) and can say car has more in it. Pushed it to my limits though

Chevy_cowboy · 06-20-2015, 05:09 PM

I run pretty hard on quiet twisty back roads, but no where near the limit. I'd love to get it out on a track someday. I have run Laguna Seca thousands of laps, in various racing games over the past 25 years.

backeddy · 06-20-2015, 08:50 PM

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I have run Laguna Seca thousands of laps, in various racing games over the past 25 years.

It's funny how many hands go up when we ask this at driver meetings! All we ever hear is how different the corkscrew REALLY IS....

Chevy_cowboy · 06-20-2015, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

It's funny how many hands go up when we ask this at driver meetings! All we ever hear is how different the corkscrew REALLY IS....

Haha yeah I bet. No matter how good the game and your wheel/pedal setup is, it can't give you the elevation changes.

backeddy · 06-21-2015, 12:42 AM

nope and the 2.7 G banked turn that follows it can be an experience too!

Billy10mm · 06-21-2015, 01:52 AM

My first laps at Laguna were on a motorcycle. I had walked the track first, and took the 'Screw slowly the first few laps, but it scared the crap out if me each and every time I came around. Wicked corner that one.

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Norm Peterson · 06-21-2015, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Just wondering if you guys who've never taken your Camaro to the track, do you feel like you've been able to push this car to it's limits?

Do you have any favorite roads where you feel you can push this car & not be a danger to your fellow motorist?

People who have never been out on a road course or at least done a few autocrosses have no idea where their car's limits are. Never mind have any idea what xx% of that might be or how to drive at a somewhat higher XX% without stepping a little past that and finding themselves at ohshit%.

I've lived in the same house for almost 37 years, so I've become pretty familiar with all the local challenging turns and turn sequences (there are several). Over that entire time, I've encountered maybe a handful of drivers running at or slightly beyond "5/10ths". 7/10ths (I think that's about where I'm driving toward the end of an "out lap" at a later-in-the-day track day session) would run away and hide from them.

And there are people who can jump into the driver's seat of my car and with only a lap or two for familiarization drive it faster than I can.

Norm

jamestown · 06-21-2015, 04:24 PM

You can't get anywhere near the 1le's limits on the street, also you probably shouldn't try to. It really is a fast car in the right hands.

06-20-2015, 03:19 PM	#1
thunderkyss Drives: 2015 Red Hot SS/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: S.E. Texas Posts: 279	Never been to the track?? Just wondering if you guys who've never taken your Camaro to the track, do you feel like you've been able to push this car to it's limits? Do you have any favorite roads where you feel you can push this car & not be a danger to your fellow motorist?

06-20-2015, 03:40 PM	#3
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I drive 8 /10ths when I go to the track. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

06-20-2015, 03:59 PM	#4
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	There are quite a few secluded roads that I can push the car to but, I don't go all-out. If I had a drag strip in my backyard, I prolly wouldn't even go, then. Now if I had a road course near by, I'd be all over that. For what it's worth, I've done both but, I'm done with the whole drag racing thing. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

06-20-2015, 05:09 PM	#8
Chevy_cowboy Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,287 View My Garage	I run pretty hard on quiet twisty back roads, but no where near the limit. I'd love to get it out on a track someday. I have run Laguna Seca thousands of laps, in various racing games over the past 25 years. __________________

06-21-2015, 01:52 AM	#12
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	My first laps at Laguna were on a motorcycle. I had walked the track first, and took the 'Screw slowly the first few laps, but it scared the crap out if me each and every time I came around. Wicked corner that one. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk __________________ My thoughts on some things: Driving Nannies: If I'm that far out of shape on the street, something has gone terribly wrong and by all means Mr. Computer man, come and get me. G2s: Rock throwing is like like a tramp stamp; although problematic, it's a sign of good things to come.

06-20-2015, 03:39 PM	#2
trashmanssd Drives: Black 14 2SS/1LE/RS 14 Tundra Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Plymouth, Ma Posts: 2,414	not even close best case maybe 50 percent for few seconds.

06-20-2015, 04:40 PM	#6
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	Unless you have done 1000's of laps in the car, I doubt you are anywhere near the limits, not a chance on 50%....Here is the lap time progression at Laguna Seca after close to 1200 laps, and I was an experienced driver long beforehand. First time 1:58XX End of first day 1:55xx (TEMPS MID 50'S) Second time 1:55-1:56 (TEMPS MID 50'S) 6th time 1:52-1:54 (TEMPS MID 50'S) 20th time 1:48 Consistent (temps 60's) (out of brakes) 25th time Brake limited at 1:46 consistent (race brakes overheating all day) (temps mid 60's) 30 time zl1 brake upgrade 1:47 consistent (Stock ZL1 pads slower than 4 piston race setup) Now 1:42-1:43 (zl1 race bakes and fully ducted)( Lap times are limited by the tires at 70 degree temps) So there is my 2 cents....I am at the limits, as I am out of tire grip (eagle F1G2's) and it take a LOT of wheel/track time to be comfortable where I am. I have taken dozens of camaro owners for ride alongs, first thing they all say is that I am psycho then they get back in there own cars and are comfortable pushing much harder. Find some that knows the car and go for a ride........

06-20-2015, 04:51 PM	#7
flyer08 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,418	Been to track and popular motorcycle roads (nationally known) and can say car has more in it. Pushed it to my limits though

06-21-2015, 12:42 AM	#11
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	nope and the 2.7 G banked turn that follows it can be an experience too!

06-21-2015, 04:24 PM	#14
jamestown Drives: 2014 1le Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Niagara Falls Ontario Posts: 174	You can't get anywhere near the 1le's limits on the street, also you probably shouldn't try to. It really is a fast car in the right hands. __________________ My sorta cheap track build.