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02-28-2012, 07:59 AM | #142 | |
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02-28-2012, 08:11 AM | #143 |
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No, same as you. However, horsepower costs alot of money. Don't you think 100 horsepower will not cost much? Do you propose Ford will not increase the MSRP by an amount that will reflect the addition of a huge HP increase accordingly? How much do you suggest the price increase will be I ask?
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02-28-2012, 08:16 AM | #144 | |
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02-28-2012, 08:40 AM | #145 |
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Damn, this car is super impressive! I gotta say when it beats a great car like a GTR on a track like this, thats gotta say something! This ain't your best friends high school 305 Iroc-Z anymore people. It's a shame it got smashed in the end, I wonder what Mr. Link thought when he heard the news someone wrecked his record setting car.
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02-28-2012, 08:46 AM | #146 | |
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Either way, if you get at least the Performance Package and recaro seat option, I can see this car then being more expensive than the ZL1 .. add the electronics package and I bet you are pushing close to 60k at that point. The price increase isn't just about the added HP on the GT500 .. they put a different engine, blower, more downforce, bigger breaks etc ... HP was probably the cheapest thing they could have done .. they could have kept the same 5.4L in there and either upped the boost or put the 2.3L TVS on there and a little more boost (remember the GT500 is low compression and built and can handle the added boost) the real deal will be the dealer markups when this car first comes out.. As far as a complete car out the door, GM did a HELL of a job w/ the ZL1 .. I say w/ the suspension setup, that car wins in the twisties for sure.. it just simply is more advance and a better setup for that environment! If they would just get the touch screen, Nav, and electronics that FORD offers as far as entertainment and climate control .. that would be over the top! Crowley
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CCR Brakes don't necessarily help the car stop faster, just more frequently and without heating issues. Many Porsche GT3 owners buy them with the CCR option, but swap them out for the regular steel units when hitting the track as they work just as well, and with sufficient cooling just as long as they need it to for a much lower cost. CCR brakes also don't work very well on the street compared to steel, they need tons of heat to work properly as their operation temp is much much higher then steel units. Anywho, I can't wait to see what Ford brings! We live in an awesome time right now with bad a$$ muscle cars coming out from everywhere! I love it! /Erik |
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nice, i think they could have done a faster time
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02-28-2012, 09:14 AM | #149 | |
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Is there anyone else who is a little tired of the 2013 GT500 "comparisons" and speculation? We are currently seeing how the ZL1 actually performs, but at this time what we know about the performance of the 2013 GT500 is only speculation. The 2013 GT500 will be released in Summer 2012, and we'll find out how the 2013 GT500's performance compares with the ZL1's performance at that time.
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02-28-2012, 09:16 AM | #150 |
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That brake option is interesting. From the initial reviews - ZL1's brakes work, so that does nothing for me, LOL. If they were offered on ZL1, I would opt' out, unless they were incorperated into a package or something that I wanted...
That sounds completely unnecessary on a Mustang, but maybe it's performance will justify them. I guess time will tell.
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02-28-2012, 09:21 AM | #152 |
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If Ford were to offer those specified brakes, they'd be an option I'm certain. No need for racing brakes on a car that will likely be spec'd without the PP/TP more often than not.
GM seems to have done a knockout job with their c5 ZL1... Just imagine if that 580 hp and MR suspension wasn't tugging around 4,000+ pounds! A lightened camaro running zo6 times in a few years... Wow.. Same with the mustang on a lighter chasis... Decrease the weight, maintain the power, increase mileage... |
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"Brembo braking system: A new Brembo brake system offers drivers enhanced stopping power to help keep their car under control, both on the road and the track. New six-piston calipers in front along with larger front and rear rotors help improve brake fade. New brake pads that are more aggressive also help the car achieve high deceleration and further robustness for more driver confidence"
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