07-02-2014, 09:17 AM | #29 |
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Don't mean to get off track a little but... how much clutch travel is ok/normal? I have to let mine out/up about 75% of the way before the clutch engages, but then its (the clutchs') operation seems fine.
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07-02-2014, 09:35 AM | #30 | |
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Has it always been like that, or has it gotten worse over time?
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07-02-2014, 09:43 AM | #31 |
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It's one of those gradual things you kind of don't remember over time but I think it's definitley gotten more pronounced. I'm an OK backyard wrench turner with engines, body, suspension, etc, but transmissions will probably forever be a bit of a mystery to me. Does this slowly lengthening clutch pedal travel mean it's going out?
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07-02-2014, 09:56 AM | #32 |
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I would have to assume that since hydraulic clutches normally self-adjust, the gradual change is due to some mechanical change. But the classic example of a worn clutch is slippage, not a 'high clutch pedal'.
The pushrod on the slave cylinder may be the adjustable type, and this could be your problem: just too much "free play". Unless the clutch is slipping I'm not sure I'd point a finger at the clutch itself.
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07-02-2014, 10:06 AM | #33 | |
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Thanks.
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07-02-2014, 10:33 AM | #34 |
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Back to the shifting, I changed the fluid in my transmission to Redline D4 ATF, and I can't believe how much smoother the shifts are. Highly recommend this!!!!
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07-02-2014, 12:21 PM | #35 |
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Don't manual boxes typically take gear oil, not Automatic Transmission Fluid? D4 ATF is a replacement for Dexron and Mercon types of ATF. Redline's great but they make gear oil too.
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07-02-2014, 09:25 PM | #36 | |
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07-02-2014, 10:22 PM | #37 | |
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In town and shift between 2-3k rpm. Usually I get to 4th gear in town and drive the posted speed limits. Haven't missed a shift yet. At the track, I shift at 6400-6600. If you can, find a nice open road and try shifting at 3-4K rpm to see if that helps with smoothing things out. Also, when you release the clutch, don't ride it as you shift but don't completely remove you foot either. Have your foot resting on the pedal completely, not just the tip. Removed the stock 3.45 gears last summer and installed the 3.91's (another high recommend mod). |
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07-02-2014, 10:42 PM | #38 |
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Mine is a little jolty if I'm not careful. If I'm just poking around town and shifting at 2500 RPM, I am easy on the let out for a smooth shift. Not riding it, but letting it out easily before pressing the gas again. If I'm feeling a little more playful I let it out pretty aggressive from gear to gear so as not to slip it under power. I don't daily drive mine so with switching between this and my automatic pickup I get a little surprise now and then from letting the clutch out too fast, etc.
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07-03-2014, 06:19 AM | #39 | |
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07-04-2014, 03:52 AM | #40 |
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I've got tons of experience driving manuals and yes, this Camaro has been tough to drive smoothly. Low speed on and off the throttle jolts the transmission and I'll hear clunking. I've learned to take the rpms up higher than 2,000 to make shifts smoother and I actually try to make the shifting "SOUND" right - you know? When taking off from a stop, I'll release the clutch about halfway until it grabs and the car moves forward, then feed in only as much throttle as is needed to get going. I let a friend drive my car to an event, some distance away, so I could get his impressions and although he knows how to drive a manual, he was slipping and BURNING the clutch -ewwwwww that smell. He didn't believe me at first and I'm going, "Hey, you're burning up the clutch!" He hasn't driven it since.
Compared to our Camaros, import cars shift like toys - no effort, smooth as silk! I also changed my transmission fluid to Redline D4, but I didn't notice any improvement.
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07-04-2014, 04:45 AM | #41 | |
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Ha! I've been so happy with the shifting of my new manual Camaro I was actually going to make a post about it coming from my auto!
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Now in the Camaro I don't need any special RPM or technique. If I want to putt around I can skip gears and definitely shift under 2k rpm no problem or on the other hand bang gears and chirp tires through the gears at WOT even with the nannies on with zero effort. I think it's definitely one of the best shifting manuals I've driven. Yea I also get a driveline clunk every now and then but like someone mentioned, this is a 400+ hp car not a light duty econo fart car. I also used to race and win motocross growing up so I was doing constant shifting over the most demanding terrain and motorsport on the planet before I even got my license so I'm sure that helped me a lot with shifting. Heal and toe, rev matching, any other "special" techniques I don't use or need at all. I can bang gears under power or putt around and shift without even thinking about it. Such an easy and relaxing manual to drive! (which I was worried about coming from a V6 auto!) I've also read posts on here about gears grinding but I never experienced one gear grind in any manual Camaro I've test driven and I've driven every year V8 from 2010 to 2014. All shifted perfect! I do believe there could be some bad apples out there because my AC was shit in my last Camaro but my new one freezes me out even on the lowest setting! So I do believe there can be some performance tolerance issues out there from car to car.... My new Camaro I just picked up is perfect in every way... Well.. I'll probably have the same stupid weak paint chipping issues but at least I got white this time instead of the worst maintenance color, black. |
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07-04-2014, 04:57 AM | #42 |
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My boss has a modded 2006 Mustang GT (500hp supercharged) and I don't know if he has an aftermarket clutch in it or what, but I actually couldn't get it into gear under WOT! I literally pulled the shifter right out of it! lol. Now I did drive my cousins newer Mustang GT and that shifted butter smooth with zero effort even under WOT gear banging. Some cars just don't like to shift smooth.
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