The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[darenf02]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

If I remember correctly that was the non performance package or gear optioned GT. Plain jane de optioned GT.

Captain Obvious speaking here: that's because there is no performance package or gear options on the SS. Bone Stock "plain jane" vs Bone Stock "plain jane" and the GT lost the 1/4 mile.

Still, I LOVE the competition. The new Muscle Car Era is alive and well!!

I'd like to see more posts about how ALL the American Muscle is blistering the foreigners!!!!!

[Dakota Kid]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

Why is everyone so fixated on how fast another car is? Anyone who races is gonna mod their car (if they expect to win). You guys are doing the same thing Challenger owners did a year ago. These kind of threads make you sound desperate and worried. Why worry? Enjoy your car and remember: That car next to you may not be what it appears to be.

Well said.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL View Post
Why is everyone so fixated on how fast another car is? Anyone who races is gonna mod their car (if they expect to win). You guys are doing the same thing Challenger owners did a year ago. These kind of threads make you sound desperate and worried. Why worry? Enjoy your car and remember: That car next to you may not be what it appears to be.

Some people, including Camaro owners, have what is called the "inferiority complex".

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

be prepared to be upset with GM when their next generation V8s come out.

Of all the information that's come out recently (They're investing in plants to build them starting 2012)...I haven't read anything about them being DOHC, or OHV...

I really want to know!

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Of all the information that's come out recently (They're investing in plants to build them starting 2012)...I haven't read anything about them being DOHC, or OHV...

I really want to know!

rumor is their truck motors might go OHC but their car engines will stay pushrod. Will employ DI, no shock their, and VVT. Lots of rumors that you will see 4v heads still using pushrods. Speculated this will be accomplished with either cam in cam technology or running 2 cams but keeping them in the block.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

rumor is their truck motors might go OHC but their car engines will stay pushrod. Will employ DI, no shock their, and VVT. Lots of rumors that you will see 4v heads still using pushrods. Speculated this will be accomplished with either cam in cam technology or running 2 cams but keeping them in the block.

If they've invented an inexpensive engine block design that will accept both OHC and OHV confgurations....hell, they need to have engine designers everywhere kissing their feet...

EARLY on...they were working on a NorthStar replacement architecture. That's dead. (Or it died, I mean). So it's likely the Gen V will be one OR the other...Either way, they'll be DI AND E85-capable...which is neat.

I'm excited.

[Georgie]

8.0L OHV V8

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Georgie

8.0L OHV V8

???

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

I was implying magazine times....of course private owners are going to have better times.


And the 12.58 was uncorrected, correct? (no pun intended)

Yeah the 12.58 was uncorrected.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013

Corrected his time would have been 12.43 @ 112.02 (DA 1395) http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52264

I still think the camaro could have a 12.4 in it with optimum driver and conditions. It is still rather early in the game

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Yeah the 12.58 was uncorrected.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013

Corrected his time would have been 12.43 @ 112.02 (DA 1395) http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52264

I still think the camaro could have a 12.4 in it with optimum driver and conditions. It is still rather early in the game

I'm not going to point fingers because I honestly dont remember which members were giving the Chally owner shit about his RT and correcting times in one of these Mustang vs Camaro threads but I'm watching now

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by meanmike

I'm not going to point fingers because I honestly dont remember which members were giving the Chally owner shit about his RT and correcting times in one of these Mustang vs Camaro threads but I'm watching now

That would've been me and yes, I still think that's assenine.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by meanmike

I'm not going to point fingers because I honestly dont remember which members were giving the Chally owner shit about his RT and correcting times in one of these Mustang vs Camaro threads but I'm watching now

I dont follow. NHRA Stocker has never claimed 12.43 and camaro5 wont even put his corrected time on the official fast list. If he was being like a lot of others he would be going around claiming a 12.43@112.

BTW his best 60ft was only a 1.9.

[Dan@showstopper]

Didn't nineball run a 13.1 his first time out with his LS3 2010? They are very close cars for sure. On paper the 5.0 should be faster though, that seems to be the reason mustang people are upset. GM has a lot of wiggle room for future improvements to really make the SS shine.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Dan@showstopper

Didn't nineball run a 13.1 his first time out with his LS3 2010? They are very close cars for sure. On paper the 5.0 should be faster though, that seems to be the reason mustang people are upset. GM has a lot of wiggle room for future improvements to really make the SS shine.

why would the Mustang be that much faster than the camaro on paper?? it weighs 240lbs less but also makes 14less hp.
I expect it to be just a tick faster. Its transmission gearing is going to make it QUICKER for sure in the quarter though, especially with proper race tires but still doable with street tires.

it still needs steeper gears than 3.73's though, something like 4.30's+ to compliment that 7000+rpm shift point.