Z/28 vs GT500

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I certainly hope they go into a hp war.

660 hp is nothing for the GT500 and ford will even warranty at those levels.

SURE FORD WILL , ONLY TILL YOU EXIT THE DEALER DRIVEWAY !!!!

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by PQ

I want the 660 pack info.

I just find it hard to believe you get a good warranty with 660 HP.

Can't find a good link on it.

This is the package for the 07-09 GT500 Super Pack: http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9887.

[PQ]

I took the liberty of adding the quotation marks. lol

Ford Racing Power Upgrade Packages are 50 state emissions legal and "eligible" for "limited" warranty when installed by a Ford or Lincoln-Mercury Dealer

[PQ]

Originally Posted by EnvyTerra

I've read it, you do get a warranty. leave the car as they (ford dealer) upgraded it and your warranty is fine, it's REAL. just accept it lol I can't believe how many times you guys went back and forth on this as if the warranty doesn't exist lol

Maybe I wanted to clarify in case I wanted to buy one.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by PQ

I took the liberty of adding the quotation marks. lol

It basically says if you put the pack on new you have your 3 year/36k warranty intact.

If you put it on past the 3 year/36,000 mile warranty they will give you 1 year/12,000 miles on parts and labor.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

It basically says if you put the pack on new you have your 3 year/36k warranty intact.

If you put it on past the 3 year/36,000 mile warranty they will give you 1 year/12,000 miles on parts and labor.

Not bad. At all.

[Sax1031]

The only thing I hope GM does for the Z28 is put forged pistons in the damn thing.

Now I am a ford fan, so I might be a little biased, but in my opinion if they put out a Z28 with the LSA engine(without forged pistons) it will still be a win for the GT500. Mainly because you can make stupid power right now with a GT500 without ever having to go into the engine. My friend put on a kenne bell blower, exhaust, throttle bodies, boost a pump, cai, and one or two other minor things and makes 826rwhp in his GT500.

Just please please GM put forged slugs in the Z28.

[blackZbandit]

To me, real bragging rights between cars are based on stock vs stock and what can be achieved with simple bolt ons. If a company like Pedders really is working on the suspension with GM we know this thing is going to ride on rails, even an SS with simple suspension mods now tears it up, but the stock ride needs to be more compliant for the masses (GM GIVE US A TRACK PACK). I think Ford is already pushing the limit as to how much power they'll pump out of the SC 5.4 and GM hasn't tweaked the LSA once since it's introduction (no need). Now that I think about it... the LS3's hasn't had any power boosts either and we all know how much she has left on the table stock the a flash and exhaust + headers can bring out. Methinks moar powa for MY '13

[lil_red_v6]

all this going on about the z vs gt500 is like apples to oranges. or a oreo vs a chocolate chip cookie. it doesnt really matter its an age old battle that will never get solved. sorry to be a d*** head but, its a fight that will never get solved.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by blackZbandit

To me, real bragging rights between cars are based on stock vs stock and what can be achieved with simple bolt ons. If a company like Pedders really is working on the suspension with GM we know this thing is going to ride on rails, even an SS with simple suspension mods now tears it up, but the stock ride needs to be more compliant for the masses (GM GIVE US A TRACK PACK). I think Ford is already pushing the limit as to how much power they'll pump out of the SC 5.4 and GM hasn't tweaked the LSA once since it's introduction (no need). Now that I think about it... the LS3's hasn't had any power boosts either and we all know how much she has left on the table stock the a flash and exhaust + headers can bring out. Methinks moar powa for MY '13

Ford is not pushing the limits of the SC 5.4.

That motor is so overbuilt it is not even funny. The rods are the first spot you will find weakness, but you will have to push over 900hp before you start to have to worry about them.

[91Z28350]

I think sometimes people lose sight of the fact that the average driver who just dropped 50+k on their car, does NOT mod it, nor do they street race. Hell to be honest, quite a few of them don't even read message boards. GT500 is a damn nice car, hopefully the Z28 is of the same quality. I know whatever car I buy it will not be because it is .xx faster than the other, it will be because I like the looks, the way it drives and the other intangibles that go along with a 50K plus car.

Just my .02, YMMV

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by 91Z28350

I think sometimes people lose sight of the fact that the average driver who just dropped 50+k on their car, does NOT mod it, nor do they street race. Hell to be honest, quite a few of them don't even read message boards. GT500 is a damn nice car, hopefully the Z28 is of the same quality. I know whatever car I buy it will not be because it is .xx faster than the other, it will be because I like the looks, the way it drives and the other intangibles that go along with a 50K plus car.

Just my .02, YMMV

depends on who you run with. because I know some guys that's spent a year or two in iraq and has that full year or two of pay to drop on a GT500 or higher. . . and I know several of those guys also that street race and mod their car.

[blackZbandit]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Ford is not pushing the limits of the SC 5.4.

That motor is so overbuilt it is not even funny. The rods are the first spot you will find weakness, but you will have to push over 900hp before you start to have to worry about them.

I didn't say pushing the limits, I said pushing the limits as to how much power they'll pump out of it. I just don't see Ford making a 600hp/550tq GT500 with a full warranty. I'm sure they'll play the tweaking game some more after the Z/28 debuts, but seriously... not that much. Unfortunately if they did the Camaro's got the Vette as a glass ceiling, but I guess fortunately for Chevy the Vette exist as the glass ceiling!

[blackZbandit]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

all this going on about the z vs gt500 is like apples to oranges. or a oreo vs a chocolate chip cookie. it doesnt really matter its an age old battle that will never get solved. sorry to be a d*** head but, its a fight that will never get solved.

I agree... but it's always fun. The real point of my original post was to see if I was the only one that thought it was strange that Ford fanboys and couch racers are putting the GT500 ahead of the Z/28 when we already have a very close analog in the CTS-V that (marginally) outperforms the GT500.