12-01-2010, 11:37 PM | #1 |
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GM's commitment to quality.Caution longish post.
I just finished doing timing chains on a 07 CTS with 38k, the timing chains were streched and setting cam timing codes per the TSB.(Not under warranty, salvage title on theft recovery) With my flame suit on, and considering the number of GM employees here, is GM really commited to quality? I would hate to see a replay of the late 80's when GM ran the 4.3 in the Cadillacs that couldn't go 50k without developing a low end knock, Lincoln put out cars only a grandmother would drive, and the imports got their toe in the door for high end cars. Currently, Cadillac is doing some great designs while Lincoln is as exciting as reading a phone book, but is the commitment to improving overall quality being stressed at all levels? I would hate to see the Lexus, Infinity, Acura trio gain more ground.
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12-02-2010, 02:38 AM | #2 |
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I can't speak for a GM employee, but in my opinion the GM of 2010-2011 is in a completely different realm as far as how to run a business compared to the GM of 2006-2007.
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12-02-2010, 05:15 AM | #3 |
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I will second this!
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12-02-2010, 05:46 AM | #4 |
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I think you're jumping to conclusions based on a car that was wrecked. Besides, if a TSB fixes the problem, I don't really consider it an issue. I don't really get what you're talking about with lincoln either. I think the MKS with the ecoboost is pretty awesome, as well as the MKT and MKX. The MKZ is a great car too.
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12-02-2010, 01:02 PM | #5 |
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we can agree ford and chevy has and is stepping up the quality meanwhile dodge.........
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12-02-2010, 01:55 PM | #6 |
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Meanwhile Dodge is in the process of overhauling the vast majority of their models basically focusing on every nitpick of basically every model. Getting shining reviews so far for their new high quality class cometitive or even better interiors, a nw fully modern V6 engine, completely new GC, Charger and Durango that are truly setup to be class leaders, yeah, meanwhile Chrysler indeed........
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12-02-2010, 01:56 PM | #7 |
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quality....easpecially car quality, is something that can't be proven over just a few years. GM, Ford, blah blah blah....you claim quality and reliability for them 10 - 20 years from now and you have an argument.
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12-02-2010, 03:27 PM | #11 |
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Actually they have already showed the car, complete with "200" badged on it (though the location on the rear pillar is not very good looking).
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12-02-2010, 05:03 PM | #12 |
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As a GM employee, I can guaran-damn-tee you that GMs commitment to delivering quality has NEVER been more focussed. It is part of nearly every discussion and our current Quality and Validation leadership have this as priority one.
Now I always caution people on judging quality on a car you don't know the history on. For all you know the car wasn't maintained. Do you know how many oil changes were performed? How the car was driven? Who has worked on it? Even my own family has bought high mileage used vehicles and had problems with them and told me, "see they just don't make good cars". If you don't know the history it's a crap shoot. That is one reason why buying certified used "can" be an advantage. You get a 1 year warranty and a certified GM inspection. I'm not sure what you get buying a certified salvaged car.
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I didn't know you only get 1 year warranty on GM certified pre-owned. ThE GM certified inspection is tricky. If you were buying a used car from
someone, would you really pay or trust that someone to do the inspection on their used car? Just saying, whenever I buy a used car, I take it to a different place for a PPI ( pre-purchase inspection). |
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