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Devil-eyes · 03-15-2009, 10:56 PM

so im just about set to go after my SS

my cousin though has a GT500 and just to back mustang up says there aint no way a SS could take the GT with track package on the track. there are no official times but he says with the track package the mustang will be faster around the track because of weight advantage. but either way the Camaro wins in a straight and thats mostly what i care about. but i also do care about the twisties so does anyone have any ideas or a good guess which beast would win?

*DGthe3* · 03-15-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

so im just about set to go after my SS

my cousin though has a GT500 and just to back mustang up says there aint no way a SS could take the GT with track package on the track. there are no official times but he says with the track package the mustang will be faster around the track because of weight advantage. but either way the Camaro wins in a straight and thats mostly what i care about. but i also do care about the twisties so does anyone have any ideas or a good guess which beast would win?

Is your cousin forgetting the 100 hp advantage that the Camaro has? 0-60 the Camaro should have a 0.3s advantage. And we have every reason to believe that it can handle the turns with relative easy.

nester7929 · 03-15-2009, 11:44 PM

No, the SS should have a clear advantage. His '07-'09 GT500 would be a driver's race though.

Q8-CamaroSS · 03-15-2009, 11:44 PM

We know that the camaro had the guts to race at the nurburgring and got 8:20sec but the Mustang to date Nada

blackZbandit · 03-16-2009, 12:10 AM

To compensate for the weight the Camaro has better brakes than are offered even with the Mustang's Track Pack, a fully independant suspension tuned on a world class race track (Nurburgring) and as was previously mentioned, a very large power advantage to push it out of turns and down straights quicker. The G8 GT and GXP that share a less finely tuned version of the Camaro's ZETA II suspension has been described as the poor man's M5; their power and especially handling have been met with unanimously rave reviews. Rest assured that the lighter-than-a-G8 Camaro SS with the upgraded suspension and better brakes will more than hold it's own against the Track Pack'd Mustang, whose only weapon is its weight advantage.

SilverTurtle · 03-16-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

so im just about set to go after my SS

my cousin though has a GT500 and just to back mustang up says there aint no way a SS could take the GT with track package on the track. there are no official times but he says with the track package the mustang will be faster around the track because of weight advantage. but either way the Camaro wins in a straight and thats mostly what i care about. but i also do care about the twisties so does anyone have any ideas or a good guess which beast would win?

your cousin is on crack... I recommend rehab immediately... his GT500 is the only Mustang in the lineup that's going to be competitive with the new Camaro SS... a new G8 GT could keep up with a Mustang GT with the track pack on a road course, so with a lower weight and higher power than the G8 GT, the Camaro SS is the easy winner here.

truth411 · 03-16-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil-eyes

so im just about set to go after my SS

my cousin though has a GT500 and just to back mustang up says there aint no way a SS could take the GT with track package on the track. there are no official times but he says with the track package the mustang will be faster around the track because of weight advantage. but either way the Camaro wins in a straight and thats mostly what i care about. but i also do care about the twisties so does anyone have any ideas or a good guess which beast would win?

Tell your cousin that he should look up something call horsepower per weight ratio, also the camaro has near 50/50 weight distribution. Also the 4 piston Brembos 14"/14.4" front/rear are superior than the 2 piston brakes with "high performance brake pads" on the mustang. Also the camaro has a very stout IRS, not all tracks are butter smooth etc...

spd98 · 03-16-2009, 05:47 AM

I disagree somewhat. The mustang has higher skid pad numbers than any of the tests I have seen on the Camaro. That said I suspect the Camaro will still kill it because the car should be much more stable and planted feeling with the IRS. I think most drivers will find the Camaro easier and more comfortable to drive hard into the corners. The HP advantage and the wider powerband of the Camaro should also allow faster times comming off of corners while the brakes should allow faster entry times into the corners.

Muscle Master · 03-16-2009, 06:09 AM

Yeah .... I wouldn't under estimate the Mustang

Devil-eyes · 03-16-2009, 11:56 AM

im sorry for a this noob question but whats IRS?

greenrail · 03-16-2009, 12:01 PM

Independent Rear Suspension

BowtieGuy · 03-16-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Yeah .... I wouldn't under estimate the Mustang

I would. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but even on a full race course, there is no comparing these two cars. Until Ford and it's pony step into the 21st century, it is going to get left behind on any track. The new Track Pack is a good first step, but they need to try and find a balance between a cheap fun car, and a serious competitor. Until they do, they will continue to outsell the competition (which I wager is the only thing they care about) and get embarassed in every standard of performance.

SilverTurtle · 03-16-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Yeah .... I wouldn't under estimate the Mustang

I'll bite: why should we not underestimate the Mustang?

2sharp · 03-16-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

I would. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but even on a full race course, there is no comparing these two cars. Until Ford and it's pony step into the 21st century, it is going to get left behind on any track. The new Track Pack is a good first step, but they need to try and find a balance between a cheap fun car, and a serious competitor. Until they do, they will continue to outsell the competition (which I wager is the only thing they care about) and get embarassed in every standard of performance.

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's a shame the SS has better brakes than the GT500 all around!! There is no excuse that a Hyundai, Honda Civic, or whatever has IRS but not Fords best selling car. Keep offering 15 HP upgrades and little tweaks here and there and see where that gets you. And I've had 6 Mustangs, looking forward to my new Z/28 (!!!!).....so I'm not bashing, I'm just tired of excuses.

03-15-2009, 10:56 PM	#1
Devil-eyes Drives: undecided Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gaithersburg MD Posts: 68	2010 camaro SS vs. 2010 Mustang GT/Track Package so im just about set to go after my SS my cousin though has a GT500 and just to back mustang up says there aint no way a SS could take the GT with track package on the track. there are no official times but he says with the track package the mustang will be faster around the track because of weight advantage. but either way the Camaro wins in a straight and thats mostly what i care about. but i also do care about the twisties so does anyone have any ideas or a good guess which beast would win?

03-15-2009, 11:44 PM	#4
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03-16-2009, 12:10 AM	#5
blackZbandit Drives: BLACK ON BLACK 2012 CAMARO SS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 743 View My Garage	To compensate for the weight the Camaro has better brakes than are offered even with the Mustang's Track Pack, a fully independant suspension tuned on a world class race track (Nurburgring) and as was previously mentioned, a very large power advantage to push it out of turns and down straights quicker. The G8 GT and GXP that share a less finely tuned version of the Camaro's ZETA II suspension has been described as the poor man's M5; their power and especially handling have been met with unanimously rave reviews. Rest assured that the lighter-than-a-G8 Camaro SS with the upgraded suspension and better brakes will more than hold it's own against the Track Pack'd Mustang, whose only weapon is its weight advantage. __________________ BLACK CAR + FLAT BLACK STRIPES + BLACK WHEELS = BLK PW3R!! **Thanks to Silver Streak for the pic I used to make this sig**

03-16-2009, 12:01 PM	#11
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03-15-2009, 11:44 PM	#3
nester7929 Rice Harvester Drives: 2014 Bright Yellow 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Plainview, TX Posts: 1,449	No, the SS should have a clear advantage. His '07-'09 GT500 would be a driver's race though.

03-16-2009, 05:47 AM	#8
spd98 Drives: had a goat Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 351	I disagree somewhat. The mustang has higher skid pad numbers than any of the tests I have seen on the Camaro. That said I suspect the Camaro will still kill it because the car should be much more stable and planted feeling with the IRS. I think most drivers will find the Camaro easier and more comfortable to drive hard into the corners. The HP advantage and the wider powerband of the Camaro should also allow faster times comming off of corners while the brakes should allow faster entry times into the corners.

03-16-2009, 11:56 AM	#10
Devil-eyes Drives: undecided Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gaithersburg MD Posts: 68	im sorry for a this noob question but whats IRS?