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Moose · 05-01-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sierra

im thinking of trying this on my truck buy I read that you need an orbital polisher and that I dont have. And I heard if your not careful you can burn the paint.

Are you thinking that you need a random-orbital buffer in order to clay/polish? Ya' don't.

The buffer would only be used for polishing/clay is by hand. It would save some time, but it's not necessary.

As for the random-orbital buffer, I have one on order (Porter Cable model #7424) and I asked several times if it's "idiot proof".

I was assured it's safe to use, but I'll practice on the Jeep first. Random-orbital buffers are much safe than orbital buffers...orbital buffers burn when used improperly.

Sierra · 05-01-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose

Are you thinking that you need a random-orbital buffer in order to clay/polish? Ya' don't.

The buffer would only be used for polishing/clay is by hand. It would save some time, but it's not necessary.

As for the random-orbital buffer, I have one on order (Porter Cable model #7424) and I asked several times if it's "idiot proof".

I was assured it's safe to use, but I'll practice on the Jeep first. Random-orbital buffers are much safe than orbital buffers...orbital buffers burn when used improperly.

How much is that setting you back?

Thwick · 05-01-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose

Are you thinking that you need a random-orbital buffer in order to clay/polish? Ya' don't.

The buffer would only be used for polishing/clay is by hand. It would save some time, but it's not necessary.

As for the random-orbital buffer, I have one on order (Porter Cable model #7424) and I asked several times if it's "idiot proof".

I was assured it's safe to use, but I'll practice on the Jeep first. Random-orbital buffers are much safe than orbital buffers...orbital buffers burn when used improperly.

What's the difference between an orbital buffer and a random-orbital buffer?

Moose · 05-01-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sierra

How much is that setting you back?

I found it on-line for $109. + shipping, but it's on back order until late May. :(

So I ordered it through Lowe's for $149.

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Originally Posted by Thwick

What's the difference between an orbital buffer and a random-orbital buffer?

I have to look that up as I don't know the specifics, other than theres a lot less chance of marring the paint using a random orbital.

69 Hugger · 05-01-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose

I found it on-line for $109. + shipping, but it's on back order until late May. :(

So I ordered it through Lowe's for $149.

I have to look that up as I don't know the specifics, other than theres a lot less chance of marring the paint using a random orbital.

Your right no chance in burning any clear off because of the way the polisher oscillates. Hey Moose don't know if you have seen the clay bar applicators where you put the clay in the applicator, or the have the pad made of clay. The RO is nice safe way to go. Check out www.autogeek.net

beowulf80 · 05-01-2009, 12:05 PM

Think of a random orbit like a spiro-graph, so instead of just spinning in a circle it ocsillates all over the place within the boundary of its orbit. However, unlike a spirograph, this motion is random, as the name implies.

Since the outside surfaces aren't rotating at such a high speed this type of motion generates much, much less heat; hence no burn. I don't have one for my car, but I'm also a woodworker and love my random-orbit sander.

Visual_Perfection · 05-01-2009, 02:14 PM

So where does a Dual orbital buffer fall into the categories of buffers? lol

Mr_Draco · 05-01-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Embalmer

I'd like to add that I did Z-2 (and Z-8 but really wasn't necessary) my Flat Black Rally stripes.

It did make them darker...permanently. You also need to use a lot more Z-2 on your stripes than you do your paint - and it does take longer to cure. It looks better darker though...and they look great and now they are protected.

Ok...THAT is all

*TAG UR IT* · 05-01-2009, 03:10 PM

I LOVE MY RANDOM ORBITAL BUFFER!!! got mine for about $75 from home depot. I also got my zaino kit delivered two days ago. I swore by mothers...... but moose, we'll give this one a shot! I can't wait to see that deep wet shine.

Moose · 05-01-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

but moose, we'll give this one a shot! I can't wait to see that deep wet shine.

Tag, feel free to leave your 5th gen. with me for a day...I'll have him lookin' great and I promise!...I won't drive him!...yeah, thats right...I won't...(hehehehe)

Moose · 05-01-2009, 04:11 PM

I oredered one of these to carry my Zaino/detailing supplies for the car shows.

Legend · 05-01-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Embalmer

I'd like to add that I did Z-2 (and Z-8 but really wasn't necessary) my Flat Black Rally stripes.

It did make them darker...permanently. You also need to use a lot more Z-2 on your stripes than you do your paint - and it does take longer to cure. It looks better darker though...and they look great and now they are protected.

Ok...THAT is all

Wait...you did the stripes too? Hmmm...I was going to tape mine off this weekend but sounds like they are good?

Thanks...my SIM Camaro SS will be right with yours come Saturday afternoon! Yes, even the claybar!

NAHURRY · 05-01-2009, 04:28 PM

Has anybody tried optimum no rinse(ONR)? Ordered some but have not tried
it out yet.

oops!, sorry for the Hi-jack

Andro · 05-01-2009, 05:19 PM

Going to clay mine as soon as I get my maro

05-01-2009, 02:14 PM	#21
Visual_Perfection Drives: '02 Bonneville SLE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 180 View My Garage	So where does a Dual orbital buffer fall into the categories of buffers? lol __________________ 2002 Bonneville SLE Zaino Treated, 6000k HID's, 25% Tint, Red Painted Calipers, Vent Visors, LED Conversion

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NAHURRY Love's to Detail Drives: 2010 SS,97silverado/08crewcab Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville SC. Posts: 1,421	Has anybody tried optimum no rinse(ONR)? Ordered some but have not tried it out yet. oops!, sorry for the Hi-jack Last edited by NAHURRY; 05-01-2009 at 06:24 PM.

05-01-2009, 05:19 PM	#28
Andro NOICE!!! ™ Drives: Force Fed 427 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GOT BOOST? Posts: 5,214 View My Garage	Going to clay mine as soon as I get my maro __________________

05-01-2009, 12:05 PM	#20
beowulf80 Drives: 2010 2SS / RS MT, IBM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yorkville IL Posts: 181 View My Garage	Think of a random orbit like a spiro-graph, so instead of just spinning in a circle it ocsillates all over the place within the boundary of its orbit. However, unlike a spirograph, this motion is random, as the name implies. Since the outside surfaces aren't rotating at such a high speed this type of motion generates much, much less heat; hence no burn. I don't have one for my car, but I'm also a woodworker and love my random-orbit sander.

05-01-2009, 03:10 PM	#23
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	I LOVE MY RANDOM ORBITAL BUFFER!!! got mine for about $75 from home depot. I also got my zaino kit delivered two days ago. I swore by mothers...... but moose, we'll give this one a shot! I can't wait to see that deep wet shine.

05-01-2009, 04:11 PM	#25
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,982	I oredered one of these to carry my Zaino/detailing supplies for the car shows.