05-03-2013, 11:22 AM | #29 |
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05-03-2013, 02:27 PM | #30 |
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/NPP Red Hot Join Date: Jun 2009
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My first 5th gen was an early 2010 V6 2LT (vin 35xx). I drove that car for a couple of years before trading in on a 2011 2SS. That was a big leap in performance. I recently traded that car for a 13 2SS 1LE. While nowhere near that level of change, I wanted to chime in on the differences. I'm not a person to track cars, just a Camaro junkie who has regularly had them as daily drivers over the past ~30 years.
The suspension pieces work very well - the ride is very similar around town to a non-1LE, but you definitely notice the performance upgrade when cornering or driving spiritedly. My 2LT had springs and sways, and that was a rougher ride certainly. Not-so with the 1LE. The 2011 2SS had a very bad case of the TR6060 rattles when releasing/pressing the clutch at low speeds in first gear - a problem that others have had. It was so bad in my car that folks were startled even 20 feet away at the grocery store or wherever. The new shifter/transmission and the gears are wonderful. No significant rattles, smooth shifts. The feel of the steering wheel and shifter is a noticeable upgrade. This car is definitely quicker than my 2011. Both were LS3s. As others have said, this is probably due to the sum of the parts, not any one thing in particular other than the 3.91 gears. It pulls harder, feels stronger that my '11. The rims and tires are very cool - they do have a downside (as all ZL1 and 1LE owners prolly know) - you will hear lots of rocks and road debris hitting your underside as they're sticky. The 2012/2013 features also should be considered - power passenger seat, electric steering, revised dash, door lock button relocation, etc. All in all I have no regrets, and believe that the 1LE addresses many of the things I would have wanted to improve on my 2011. These updates are under warranty though and I wouldn't have been able to achieve this level of performance for the $3500 asking price. It's an excellent value and you will feel a positive difference in driving experience.
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05-03-2013, 02:40 PM | #31 | |
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05-03-2013, 02:41 PM | #32 |
Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012
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Looks like you need to order a set of rear ZL1 splash guards and install them. Very easy mod that only costs about $60 and they look very subtle and offer nice protection!
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05-03-2013, 04:12 PM | #33 |
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Ready for it, I drive a ZL1 as a daily driver, and flat out I wish I could afford to buy a 1LE do drive every day instead and keep my ZL1 in a garage a little more. I'm not sure I'd be happy in a SS at this point, but I could do a 1LE, as a second car of course.
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05-03-2013, 09:26 PM | #34 |
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Have you driven a 1LE? Every person who has and every magazine review says otherwise. What you get for $3500 a real upgrade over a standard SS. I think it was Motor Trend that said the 1LE package take the Camaro from "pig to pony". Sounds like it is worth every penny to me.
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05-03-2013, 10:06 PM | #35 | |
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As I said, I don't go to the track so I wouldn't be able to enjoy what the package is for. I live in a place where it's usually cold, and a Camaro being my DD, I would have to change the wheels. Also, I'm sure that a normal SS could pull better numbers with the wheels that the 1LE has. So having to remove the wheels would semi defeat the purpose of a track package. I could turn in an intersection at 30mph or get off a curved freeway ramp at 60 mph to "push" the car and get my money's worth out of the track package, but I really try not to be a reckless driver. So in my case, I would only choose to get the 1LE for the looks. Since it would only be for the looks, I would just get aftermarket cosmetic stuff and it would be a lot cheaper. Only downside would be getting called a poser here at camaro5. |
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05-03-2013, 10:49 PM | #36 |
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The 3.91 rear pumpkin feels awesome in my L99, no upgrade here, to attached to this one.
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05-06-2013, 01:49 AM | #37 | |
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05-06-2013, 01:59 AM | #38 |
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the 1le's wheels suck imo, black wheels=garbage
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05-06-2013, 05:16 AM | #39 |
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I'm guessing you don't like the 1LE wheels...
now, can you connect the dots for us where A+B=garbage? Structurally, I believe they're up to the task, are probably round within tolerances, and allows the tires to hold air. So, just how are they garbage? I don't mind reading other people's opinions even when I don't share the same sentiments, but your opinion stops being an opinion after your comma- it appears trollish. Since we want to do some math, my equation could look like 11fastss=troll. But that's just my opinion.
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05-06-2013, 06:34 AM | #40 | |
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05-07-2013, 08:56 AM | #42 |
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Good luck Make sure the dealer uses lube, haha. Trading in cars sucks, but you gotta be happy with your ride.
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