May 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by atari_80s_guy

how can the Camaro need a refreshening when it's only been out for 2 years?

The mustang has been refreshed twice since the Camaro came out. 2010 , 2013. Actually the Camaro has been out over 3 years ( March 2009 - June 2012 ), that spans 3 model years 2010-2012

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by atari_80s_guy

The reality is the Camaro vs. Mustang days are about over. The writing is on the wall as Motor Trend did a Mustang GT vs. BMW M3 comparison, not ss vs. gt. Second have you seen the numbers that the 13' gt500 put UP? It is faster than the corvette zo6. And we all know that chevy is not going to let a camaro outrun a corvette. While the ZR1 can run with a base vette. The gt500 will now blow it's doors off. I hate to say it but Ford has called Chevy's bluff..............

That don't mean anything, does it mean Chevy was shooting for the AMG Mercedes with the SS just because TOP GEAR did a comparison? Flawed logic you have there. Magazines and TV shows don't determine who the competition is. The buying public does.

[All Star]

Originally Posted by atari_80s_guy

come on man??? atleast read the entire comversation before you type. this is a comment referring to the fact that the Mustang is now being compared to BMW's instead of Camaros performance wise not sales numbers

I did, I still don't get where it is going with this. Do you think GM is pissing themselves that the Mustang is faster around a track when they are raking in the profits from higher sales totals?

Originally Posted by MY1STCAMAR0

Did I not just say '12 GT500? Let's not be stupid.

Crap, I read that too quick...still, who would want to buy a '12 GT500 right now for $56k? Those affect less than 1% of sales probably.

[Fenderaddict2]

Not sure of the Margin on a Camaro but the Mustang has one of the healthiest margins in the industry.

[atari_80s_guy]

Originally Posted by All Star

I did, I still don't get where it is going with this. Do you think GM is pissing themselves that the Mustang is faster around a track when they are raking in the profits from higher sales totals?


Crap, I read that too quick...still, who would want to buy a '12 GT500 right now for $56k? Those affect less than 1% of sales probably.

dude..you are trying to create an argument. if you go back you will see where I said performance dosen't determine sales

[boltmark]

The Mustang/Ford just does a better job advertising, which will equate to better sales sooner or later. Plus the new Mustang coming out isn't working matters.

[boltmark]

I have a Camaro because I just love these cars. But the Mustang does look better in the Vert version then the Camaro. That might explain some of the jump in sales with Summer coming on.

[Bcarr]

Wow, this thread is getting heated! I personally like the Camaro better but that's just one opinion. I have a good friend with the Mustang GT vert and I like it as well. I think they are both great cars. No reason to argue about it. It's personal preference in my opinion.

[RonnieSVT]

I believe part of the problem is the v6 performance! Even though the camaro is a way better looking car I think id rather have a 13.9 sec v6 Stang over a v6 Camaro.

v6 Camaro < mustang v6 <Mustang 5.0<Must Laguna Seca<Dodge Challanger<Camaro SS<gt500<zl1camaro -my order of choice

[All Star]

I love them both, to be honest...I was just checking out to see what used 5.0's are going for out of curiosity.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by RonnieSVT

I believe part of the problem is the v6 performance! Even though the camaro is a way better looking car I think id rather have a 13.9 sec v6 Stang over a v6 Camaro.

v6 Camaro < mustang v6 <Mustang 5.0<Must Laguna Seca<Dodge Challanger<Camaro SS<gt500<zl1camaro -my order of choice

Not everyone cares about performance in V6 models. In fact i bet most people buying the V6 did not buy it for performance. Even though the performance of my V6 is everything i want or need.

[RonnieSVT]

I dont think anyone bought the base camaro for its performance
sorry but a pony car should be about performance , Theres no excuse for the Camaro not being able to run 13s. Im sorry but I love the camaro but every car I have owned has had a v8 in it

Its my opion that if the v6 camaro ran 13.5@105 and got 30 mpg then they would have a really cool car and would sell allot more! Believe me thats should be the nexts platforms goal. Less weight and more power !
My Truck ran 13.6@103 with me driving stock!

66 cutlass 330 Hp v8 first car
1986 mustang gt second car
1994 z28 6 speed 355 procharged lt4 642 rwhp ,,3rd car
2001 Lightning Present

Oh and....
When I was a kid my dad owned a 65 stang with Manual Transmission. and a beautiful Black 1958 Chevy Impalla
I learned to drive in a 1970 chevy wagon so dont call me a Ford guy

Give me a v8

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by RonnieSVT

I dont think anyone bought the base camaro for its performance
sorry but a pony car should be about performance , Theres no excuse for the Camaro not being able to run 13s. Im sorry but I love the camaro but every car I have owned has had a v8 in it

Its my opion that if the v6 camaro ran 13.5@105 and got 30 mpg then they would have a really cool car and would sell allot more! Believe me thats should be the nexts platforms goal. Less weight and more power !
My Truck ran 13.6@103 with me driving stock!

66 cutlass 330 Hp v8 first car
1986 mustang gt second car
1994 z28 6 speed 355 procharged lt4 642 rwhp ,,3rd car
2001 Lightning Present

Oh and....
When I was a kid my dad owned a 65 stang with Manual Transmission. and a beautiful Black 1958 Chevy Impalla
I learned to drive in a 1970 chevy wagon so dont call me a Ford guy

Give me a v8

Well that may be your opinion, and I never called you a ford guy. But in reality the V6 is the bread and butter of both the mustang and Camaro. If they didn't exist more than likely either platform would not exist for long. By the way the original purpose of the pony car was a secretary's car. The mustang was not originally designed to be a performance car.

[derklug]

One big factor in the jump in Mustang sales could be the fact that Ford quit taking orders for 2012 Mustangs in December. All orders since December have been for the 2013 model, so if people didn't find what they wanted on a lot, they had to wait.