Firebird

[awfarley]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I see nothing that looks like a Cobalt and very little Camaro.

It was more of a joke than anything really. It looks like they blended a family car with the slightly flared fenders and added some sporty touches.

The front end of the car looks ugly IMO. That's why I compared it to a Cobalt.

[awfarley]

Originally Posted by Taintedveins

It doesn't look right to me. If you are going stream line remain streamline through out if you want an edgy look stick with that it is difficult to blend them properly from scratch!

Yeah I hate the way the entire top half of the vehicle is all rounded. Then again I don't get paid to critique vehicles either...

...ooh and I still haven't figured out multi-quoting...

[FenwickHockey65]

No Firebird without Pontiac. And the Pontiac brand is useless in the current GM brand structure.

Originally Posted by snaphappy

I really worry that GM will stop production of the Camaro and Chrysler will stop production of the Challenger. Does anyone know if these cars make nice profits for either company? It just seems like the industry is going in a different direction.

Camaro is profitable. 6th gen around mid-decade.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by awfarley

It was more of a joke than anything really. It looks like they blended a family car with the slightly flared fenders and added some sporty touches.

The front end of the car looks ugly IMO. That's why I compared it to a Cobalt.

Since Chevy has started moving away from that nose on the new Impala and Traverse, I would say if they produce it it would have a different nose.
To me that rear 3/4 view reminds me somewhat of the old 90 Lumina 2 door.

[Taintedveins]

Originally Posted by awfarley

Yeah I hate the way the entire top half of the vehicle is all rounded. Then again I don't get paid to critique vehicles either...

...ooh and I still haven't figured out multi-quoting...

Hit the quotation mark to the right of quote for every person you want to answer then hit reply at the bottom.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by its a syn

Hey Chevy, put a LS in this thing

That thing looks like a hodge podge of ugly designs thrown together...nasty!

[awfarley]

Originally Posted by Taintedveins

Hit the quotation mark to the right of quote for every person you want to answer then hit reply at the bottom.

Wow.

Maybe I overcomplicated things a little. Thanks for the help!

I love the idea of bringing back the old cars but the companies would never make money... sadly now we see everything out to appeal to the masses and leave tradition in the dust. You see what happened to the Challenger. Now the SRT Barracuda looks like some Camaro hybrid. The import brand coupes look like one another to me with the same sleek styling and then Mazda killed the RX-8 by adding huge fender flares. At least our cars look good.

[SirZeusor]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Before I die, I want to drop an LS3 in a solstice or sky, its been my dream.

I dont love the cars that much, but I know it would be such a beast. And a fun project.

my dream was to always drop a an LS3 in a Fiero.

just tossin that out there...

and real camaro drivers get rid of the hiddeous extreemly large bow tie on the front of the car.

tossin that out too.....

[hightower]

I don't see it happening...

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by SirZeusor

and real camaro drivers get rid of the hiddeous extreemly large bow tie on the front of the car.

tossin that out too.....

REAL Camaros wear their Bowties proudly, only those ashamed that it's a Chevy removes it.

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by JoansDriver

Not looking to be converted, friend.

Convert? No way amigo. Informing, because you seemed to be lacking info on the car. Plus you seem to turn your nose up at it. That's your clambake but you're the one who commented that way, don't forget

[Joe Remi]

The GTO was a good car with so-so looks at full new-car price. Now it's an excellent performance car bargain used.

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by SirZeusor

my dream was to always drop a an LS3 in a Fiero.

just tossin that out there...

and real camaro drivers get rid of the hiddeous extreemly large bow tie on the front of the car.

tossin that out too.....

Fiero... Hmmmm...



Anyway, no Firebird anytime soon i suspect unfortunately

[SnowVert]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

I traded in my 2007 Solstice GXP for my Camaro. Ever drive a Sol GXP?

In addition to being gorgeous, the car has a nice chassis, 49/51 weight distribution, and with a full factory warranty behind it, you can have the car make 290 bhp and 340 lb/ft, and that's from a 2.0L 4 cylinder. Chassis feels like a hardtop even with the roof down. Since it's RWD, there's no vibration through the wheel. The car feels like a mild V8 powers it. With VVT and variable vaen turbo, there is zero turbo lag. My Sol GXP was a little rocket and had nice tech like sodium filled valves. The LS3's tech? Roller cam? OK, I like it just fine and I like the LS3 too because I'm a pushrod V8 fan. But that's all we get?

Look at the torque curves and do the math, comparing the 1SS Camaro and the Sol GXP with the factory upgrades. It approaches the power to weight ratio of a 1SS, and the torque curve of the LS3 is peaky by comparison; the LNF's torque curve is flat flat flat to redline unless you have the factory upgrade, in which case it just goes up until redline. The Solstice GXP with the GMPP upgrade has more torque available in relation to weight at most any rpm, under the curve, than the 1SS. The 1SS has more torque in raw numbers but let's face it, we all live under the curve. That's while getting 25 mpg around town and 31 on the highway.

The solstice shifter doesn't look like a gimp mask, either, and the shifts are crisp, unlike the stick-in-the-mud manual in my Camaro

My 2007 Solstice GXP would outrun my 1SS Camaro at any stoplight grand prix. The Camaro's long legs in second gear would make it win at the 1/4 mile track though. On a road course, I don't feel the Camaro has any advantage over my old GXP because in my opinion, the LS3 is way too peaky and needs more torque at lower rpms to get our overweight Camaros moving.

Don't like the Solstice all you like but 'barely a step up from a Miata'? You never drove one, my friend

I also had an 07 Solstice GXP. I really was like driving a go cart on crack. That thing was a blast. The one and only complaint was the almost complete lack of trunk space. It made road trips very difficult. However, in my opinion, it was a lot more fun to drive than my Camaro. Plus I loved the looks of that and the Sky, they were both very unique (other than the similarities they shared of course).

Originally Posted by stlrammer

The 2006 GTO was an awesome car and bridged the gap for me between my 2001 Z28 and 2010 SS.

GTO was a great idea with a poor execution. To me it looks like an upgraded cavalier.