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Old 08-22-2014, 07:23 PM   #35
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No worries man, eyes wide open is my point...
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:31 PM   #36
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I also think that brining up the odds of significant injury during an HPDE/autox as being slim to none is correct.
If you can call the family of the instructor that died a few weeks ago at the local track and say the risk is minimal for HPDE so send your son or grandson next weekend then you have bigger stones than me. My point is a healthy respect for the sport is never a bad thing.

And I fully agree with your last comment.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:50 PM   #37
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If you can call the family of the instructor that died a few weeks ago at the local track and say the risk is minimal for HPDE so send your son or grandson next weekend then you have bigger stones than me. My point is a healthy respect for the sport is never a bad thing.



And I fully agree with your last comment.

What were the circumstances?
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:35 PM   #38
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Hey Norm, I don't think anyone's disputing the standard regs about a fire resistant helmet.
In my experience, far too many people figure that a helmet is a helmet, frequently without even knowing that different specs exist.

SA is also a multiple impact spec. The helmet I used when I was autocrossing a dozen or so times a season somehow managed to acquire scuff marks that I have no idea when or how they got there. Something had to be close enough such that OE restraints and cloth seats (grippier than leather) weren't enough. But fully SCCA Solo-legal.

FWIW, I've seen at least one car on fire at an autocross (back in the 1970's), and rather more recently a car that ended up on its roof when it got way out of shape toward the end of a slalom. IIRC, there was a passenger, though I don't know if it was an instructor or a guest of the driver.


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Old 08-22-2014, 08:52 PM   #39
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Student went off track and passenger door struck something killing the instructor instantly.
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Is this the Summit Point incident?
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:24 AM   #42
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I'm not sure if any safety equipment would have helped him in hitting a tree. It also seems as this happened coming out of a 90 degree corner from the reports I've been seeing, real world daily driver speeds involved. This could have easily happened on the street in the rain and had the same outcome. I get it, you can never have enough safety equipment, but when it's your time it's your time.
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