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Old 05-11-2014, 06:36 PM   #15
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Did I read that right, GM is offering $1000 customer loyalty on new 13's?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:58 PM   #16
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I did read that too , not sure about it , but I'm going to check on their site
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:09 PM   #17
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It says it is a $1000 Bonus cash.
What I need to find out is if it is Customer loyalty cash? The Dealer I am buying my new 13' through did not ask me if I owned a Camaro or not. I'd like to get another $1000 off if I could.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:16 PM   #18
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My dealer here, has a 2014 black zl1 vert.. MSRP was 68k, without haggling him I could of got it for 58k, but then again he only offered me 45 for my current zl1... I didn't make the trade in, but was thinking about it...
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:43 PM   #19
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I am in New York DePaula Chev has a black 2013 Zl1 14 miles sunroof carbiin fiber hood
They afford it to me for 51700.00 MSRP was 58,000.00 If you want i can send you the contact info of the sales man i was working with . I decided to get a 2014
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:44 AM   #20
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I was wondering,with talk of new '13 ZL-1's for ~ $50k,a dealer by me has a used '13 ,manual coupe w/o sunroof and around 3,600 miles. They want $52,800 for it! I was thinking more around $45k.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:58 AM   #21
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I just went thru the same thing but didn't buy.. 13 zl1 sticker58 ish to me 51ish with rebates n 1.9 ... they are a lousy dealing dealer n rely on transient military population to rip off err sale too..
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:06 AM   #22
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Paid $50,900 for my victory red 6spd 13 zl1 2 months ago. You can def get one in that range.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:11 AM   #23
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I doubt you get 0% for 60 with 9k off.

I bought a car 2 weeks ago. They got me in the door by advertising .9% apr for 60 months. Once I negotiated about 10% off they said they can only do 1.5% apr. Minor difference but they'll push every small aspect to their advantage.

Financing through the dealer will help negotiations because they make money on it. But if you negotiate too low they won't give you the best deal/apr. Maybe they will, but not in my most recent experience.

Financing pros recommend to spend 20% of your annual net income on a car. To buy a $50,000 car you would need to make $250,000 AFTER taxes. I highly doubt the OP is in those lines with this post. Not trying to embarrass or knock but I'm just trying to put it into perspective. Of course sports car owners are not the average investor for transportation so 99% of people on here probably don't follow the 20% rule
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:09 PM   #24
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Thanks for all the advice so far. I think I will ask around and if I hear a NO, its no big deal. You can't find out until you ask.

As for the 20% rule, yes that has no relevance in this conversation. I've asked for facts and anecdote, not opinion please.
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:59 PM   #25
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Hahaha. Around here you'll ALWAYS get opinions. Asked or not.

I got my ZL1 last year OTD in August saving nearly 6K in the process. Of course, I had many to choose from and it came down to an IOM or CRT.

You're overthinking this WAY too much IMO (yes, I have an opinion). You seem to be shopping for payments and terms rather than the car itself. The pittance difference of paying a few hundred more for the "right" car for you should take precedence. Don't settle when buying the ZL1 of your dreams. Next year, you're not going to miss that $$ difference, unless you're planning a trade that you'll be upside down for.

This is what I did and my advice is to do the same -- search for the 2013 of your wanting. Or hopefully several finalists. Dig the details and make the offers. If you're trading, then you're at a major disadvantage, so buy outright without trade if possible. You'll have more negotiating room. After getting all the facts in writing, THEN make your decision. I went out and secured my own financing at a very low rate, and then when I got there, I let the dealer have a chance to beat my confirmed rate. Amazingly, they did. By doing it that way, it boxes them into a corner in that at least you know what max payment would be for you and you know you have the money available to make the purchase regardless.

Recall there is usually a reason the car is still sitting. Seek the car YOU want and don't settle just because you could save an extra $100. EVER.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:13 PM   #26
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Thanks for all the advice so far. I think I will ask around and if I hear a NO, its no big deal. You can't find out until you ask.

As for the 20% rule, yes that has no relevance in this conversation. I've asked for facts and anecdote, not opinion please.
It's actually not an opinion; It's a professionals advice and I believe it should be mentioned more on car purchases. If it's tough to hear perhaps there is a reason.

Some of the best information on forums is the stuff that hurts to hear. We could all just feed your wishes and say, "of course 2013 models are cheap! that's last year! it's like a free car! dealers will literally give it away because it costs them money......."

I also traded in a 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP for $12,000. But I was buying a $30,000 car. You buy a $50,000 car with an extra $5,000 in taxes and your $10k trade in barely covered the tax and fees (in Texas).

I am chiming in because I think about this stuff a ton. I hope to be helping talking about the points. I'm not trying to annoy and don't blame me for high prices/taxes.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:23 PM   #27
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:03 PM   #28
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It's actually not an opinion; It's a professionals advice and I believe it should be mentioned more on car purchases. If it's tough to hear perhaps there is a reason.

Some of the best information on forums is the stuff that hurts to hear. We could all just feed your wishes and say, "of course 2013 models are cheap! that's last year! it's like a free car! dealers will literally give it away because it costs them money......."

I also traded in a 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP for $12,000. But I was buying a $30,000 car. You buy a $50,000 car with an extra $5,000 in taxes and your $10k trade in barely covered the tax and fees (in Texas).

I am chiming in because I think about this stuff a ton. I hope to be helping talking about the points. I'm not trying to annoy and don't blame me for high prices/taxes.
Thank you but no thank you. I do not require your advice right now I can manage my finances quite nicely and have been doing so for years. If everyone went by your "rule" new car purchases in the United States would drop by a factor of 10. I know my financial situation and don't require your input on it. I simply want facts on peoples actual negotiated prices and stories of what they may have paid or offers that have been turned down at dealers. Nothing more. I am WELL aware of everything that goes into a car deal. Your 20% law does not relate to me, take my word for it and lets move on.
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