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For some reason I thought the LS7 was inspired by the LS1-R. LS1-R-> LS7 -> C5-R -> LSX. I could be wrong though. Quote:
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"Please note that the cast iron GM LSX block and the World Products WARHAWK block do not have identical locations for the extra head bolts, however, standard 4-bolt GM LS heads will fit." Specifically, because I'm going with boost it was important for me to have LSX-LS(n) style heads to ensure as much strength as possible; The LSX block and LSX style heads have 6-bolts per./cylinder. So, aside from power alone, in my mind "strength" is a key factor in high powered setups. Last edited by calbert1999; 11-17-2011 at 04:51 PM. |
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11-17-2011, 11:55 PM | #1430 | |
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We set the bar a bit higher. Bit my axx. We set the bar so high if I told you wouldn't believe me. |
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11-18-2011, 10:19 AM | #1431 |
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Pete, burning the midnight oil?
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11-18-2011, 11:08 AM | #1432 |
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11-18-2011, 11:17 AM | #1433 |
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11-18-2011, 11:51 AM | #1434 | |
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Did you hear about the announcement from Ford? Right after GM announced pricing on the ZL1, Ford announced a 650hp. Mustang GT500 for 2013. Chase said; Someoen pissed in GM's Cherios that morning. LOL |
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11-18-2011, 12:33 PM | #1435 | |
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As for the 2013 GT500 / 650 vs. THE L/28 we welcome them all, contenders or pretenders |
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11-18-2011, 01:02 PM | #1436 | |
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My position is; Realistically, these cars aren't true muscle because of the number of issues when you drive them the way they're supposed to be driven, they're just daily drivers with powerful engines and cool sporty looks. Back in the day the excuse was limited technology at the time. Nowadays, the only excuse is profit margins. So, both vehicles need tons of upgrades anyways so the only true measure of value is how much HP / TQ you get. Just my .02 cents. That's why I like the type of stuff you guys are doing, other vendors and the members on C5 (in relationship to mods and the aftermarket products). I learn, implement and end up with something much better than what will be offered stock regardless if it's a base Mustang, GT500, SS or ZL1. Can't wait to see a ZL1 up against other vendor offerings. The shop I use has the entire Pedders product line on their shop car (with some other stuff), and I don't think there are too many vehicle out there that can take this vehicle on the track including the ZL1. So, it's obvious vendors like Pedders, and shops like LPE, et al. are filling the gaps. |
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11-21-2011, 12:45 PM | #1437 |
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OK OK OK, GM should offer a 1LE with the option of MR or as LOWDOWN says enhanced FE4, or a dealer installed Pedders suspension. Also a (1LE + LS7) Z28 with the option of MR or as LOWDOWN says enhanced FE4, or a dealer installed Pedders suspension. Simple!
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11-21-2011, 09:03 PM | #1438 | |
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11-21-2011, 09:18 PM | #1439 | |
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Might as well go back to a solid axle and leaf springs too, crank up windows, manual locks, no AC/heat, etc.... I am sure they will sell all of 5 of them...... Sorry, but that is what the COPO or the body in White was for. They have to appeal to where most of the sales will come from... people want creature comforts..... Fbodfather stated before, to put that many variations on the assembly line now would create a higher priced vehicle for many reasons... slowed production, more inventory, more line changes, etc
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11-21-2011, 10:26 PM | #1440 |
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Chevrolet did debut the COPO at SEMA. I have ZERO inside information on this idea, no one has said ANYTHING to me, but that doesn't stop me from GUESSING.
Is it possible that Chevrolet will really bring back the COPO? Central Office Production Order? A check box available for LS7, Pedders, Road Course Wheels and Tires... Could the COPO Drag Car be a hint at this? |
11-21-2011, 10:27 PM | #1441 | |
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Definately, I prefer better hardware than fancy software that's not need 99.9% of the time. |
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11-21-2011, 11:04 PM | #1442 | |||
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Crank windows & an SRA and those other things you mentioned are very hard to implement because it would usually require specially designed parts. Plus, it would require reworking parts of the assembly line, since it isn't setup to accommodate different types of parts for those components/assemblies. That makes things extremely expensive. But seeing as they already plan to build Camaros with 4 different engines (LFX, L99, LS3, LSA), adding a 5th isn't too big of a deal, especially when that 5th engine would be very similar to the 3 other V8s in terms of size & mounting. Same goes for the suspension. They already change up a bunch of parts for the SS vs the V6s, and will be doing the same thing again for the ZL1. So multiple suspension setups being assembled together is something GM can easily accommodate on the line, if they wanted to. The main added cost would be the difference in material cost for the parts, since it doesn't really matter what spring gets put into the suspension, from an assembly standpoint at least. Quote:
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