MP 2300 vs TVS 2300 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Carlos Garza · 12-12-2009, 06:02 AM

Since I want to install one of these babies in my car, I’ve been doing some research about the manacharger and came up on the "new and improved" version of the TVS which is the MP 2300 also by mangnuson. Supposedly, the MP is the exact same thing that's on the ZR1 Vette (LS9 engine). I'm leaning more for the MP, but most of the success stories we have seen in the forum are with the TVS...

So which one is the best option for the Camaros LS3 engine?

Should I go with the new and improved MP or the old reliable and proven TVS?

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp23006thgen.htm

8ty8 ls1 · 12-12-2009, 07:37 AM

to me, it looks like you'd want the MP just for efficiency. its my understanding that with the 180 degree twist with 4 lobes means you won't have to spin it as fast to make as much boost. so technically it would create boost easier and just be an overall more efficient system. since the supercharger wont be spinning as fast, you won't be making as much heat, making the whole intercooling process easier. i don't know if easier is the right word, but yeah, there is a reason why GM performance division went with this type of supercharger for the zr1 and not a 3 lobe.

JANNETTYRACING · 12-12-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

Since I want to install one of these babies in my car, I’ve been doing some research about the manacharger and came up on the "new and improved" version of the TVS which is the MP 2300 also by mangnuson. Supposedly, the MP is the exact same thing that's on the ZR1 Vette (LS9 engine). I'm leaning more for the MP, but most of the success stories we have seen in the forum are with the TVS...

So which one is the best option for the Camaros LS3 engine?

Should I go with the new and improved MP or the old reliable and proven TVS?

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp23006thgen.htm

I could be wrong but I believe the MP and TVS are the same Blower.

8ty8 ls1 · 12-12-2009, 07:42 AM

yes jannetty is correct. they're the same. which is why the tvs rocks!! lol

http://www.magnacharger.com/sc-camaro.htm look at the bulleted section. says "front inlet MP2300 tvs supercharger"

sweaver · 12-12-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I could be wrong but I believe the MP and TVS are the same Blower.

Yes they are just dif marketing names,

1320junkie · 12-12-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I could be wrong but I believe the MP and TVS are the same Blower.

LOL thanks for that I was searching and thought I was going crazy..

Carlos Garza · 12-12-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I could be wrong but I believe the MP and TVS are the same Blower.

Thanks for the heads up... my bad

*radz28* · 12-12-2009, 10:16 AM

I think, just to be clear, it should be pointed out it's the rotors, if I'm not mistaken, that are shared with these blowers; the cases are propriatary, if you will. Eaton makes the rotors for GM and Magnuson, but GM and Magnuson (as well as Edelbrock) actually cast their own rotor cases. I was confused about this for the longest time...

ffrcobra_65 · 12-12-2009, 11:18 AM

good to know even the mods get confused now and then

*radz28* · 12-12-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

good to know even the mods get confused now and then

If I ever claim I have nothing to learn from anyone here, call me on it. There's so much to learn here it's crazy. That doesn't mean I'm always open to learn, lol

, but that doesn't mean I know more than any of you

freemaSSon · 12-12-2009, 02:40 PM

MP2300 is Magnuson's Magnacharger model number. TVS refers to the actual rotor assembly which is Eaton's parts.

The TVS 1900 and TVS 2300 are internals that are manufactured by Eaton and sold to other supercharger manufacturers that engineer their own housings and use Eaton's internals.

The Eaton TVS1900 Blower is the actual system on the CTS-V and the Eaton TVS2300 Blower is the actual system on the ZR1.

Carlos Garza · 12-12-2009, 02:58 PM

Awesome info... Now what's the difference between the ls3 engine and the engine on both the CTS V and the ZR1, besides the SC?

JICPerformance · 12-12-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

Awesome info... Now what's the difference between the ls3 engine and the engine on both the CTS V and the ZR1, besides the SC?

pistons, forged internals I believe on the ZR1, heads, accessory brackets, they both use the truck style throttle bodies, they both use separate supercharger belts versus the magnacharger kits using a single drive belt for all accessories and the supercharger....a LOT

MORE INFO:

The 2010 Camaro SS's 376-cubic inch, LS3 uses the same case as the Corvette ZR1's LS9, except for the "SC" engine's larger head bolt threads, piston oilers, forged steel main caps and its deck plate honing process. Other than that, everything done for the LS9 block carries into the new Camaro's LS3.

JICPerformance · 12-12-2009, 03:56 PM

ZR1 engine, LS9, exploded view

12-12-2009, 06:02 AM	#1
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	MP 2300 vs TVS 2300 Since I want to install one of these babies in my car, I’ve been doing some research about the manacharger and came up on the "new and improved" version of the TVS which is the MP 2300 also by mangnuson. Supposedly, the MP is the exact same thing that's on the ZR1 Vette (LS9 engine). I'm leaning more for the MP, but most of the success stories we have seen in the forum are with the TVS... So which one is the best option for the Camaros LS3 engine? Should I go with the new and improved MP or the old reliable and proven TVS? http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp23006thgen.htm

12-12-2009, 07:37 AM	#2
8ty8 ls1 Resident Engineer Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 1988 GMC S-15 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 766	to me, it looks like you'd want the MP just for efficiency. its my understanding that with the 180 degree twist with 4 lobes means you won't have to spin it as fast to make as much boost. so technically it would create boost easier and just be an overall more efficient system. since the supercharger wont be spinning as fast, you won't be making as much heat, making the whole intercooling process easier. i don't know if easier is the right word, but yeah, there is a reason why GM performance division went with this type of supercharger for the zr1 and not a 3 lobe. __________________ 12.68 @ 109: LSR cai, Borla S-type axle-back, Tunes

12-12-2009, 07:42 AM	#4
8ty8 ls1 Resident Engineer Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 1988 GMC S-15 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 766	yes jannetty is correct. they're the same. which is why the tvs rocks!! lol http://www.magnacharger.com/sc-camaro.htm look at the bulleted section. says "front inlet MP2300 tvs supercharger" __________________ 12.68 @ 109: LSR cai, Borla S-type axle-back, Tunes

12-12-2009, 10:16 AM	#8
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,188 View My Garage	I think, just to be clear, it should be pointed out it's the rotors, if I'm not mistaken, that are shared with these blowers; the cases are propriatary, if you will. Eaton makes the rotors for GM and Magnuson, but GM and Magnuson (as well as Edelbrock) actually cast their own rotor cases. I was confused about this for the longest time... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

12-12-2009, 02:40 PM	#11
freemaSSon Pat @ ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: CGM SS/RS M6 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Prosper, TX Posts: 506	MP2300 is Magnuson's Magnacharger model number. TVS refers to the actual rotor assembly which is Eaton's parts. The TVS 1900 and TVS 2300 are internals that are manufactured by Eaton and sold to other supercharger manufacturers that engineer their own housings and use Eaton's internals. The Eaton TVS1900 Blower is the actual system on the CTS-V and the Eaton TVS2300 Blower is the actual system on the ZR1. __________________ "old age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition" author unknown "There are two types of racers: cheaters...and losers." Smokey Yunick

12-12-2009, 11:18 AM	#9
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	good to know even the mods get confused now and then

12-12-2009, 02:58 PM	#12
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	Awesome info... Now what's the difference between the ls3 engine and the engine on both the CTS V and the ZR1, besides the SC?

12-12-2009, 03:56 PM	#14
JICPerformance Here to make you faster Drives: 2005 GTO supercharged 2009 GXP Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 126	ZR1 engine, LS9, exploded view

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