Best three modifications about $500 each?

[ABM Camaro]

Yes im seeing that some cold air intakes make you remove the bottle washer which doesn't make sense to me. Im just looks for some simple stuff like a ported throttle body, cold air intake ( what's the best brand for the buck), and headers.

Im thinking

rotofab -$350

vmax - $150

Stainless power or TSP. $650 ish .

The Pfadt look like a gimmick with not much more flow than stock manifolds and have two choke points

and I still have money left for a tune.

[Mchlgrrsn]

That's a fine list you have there. All good choices. Enjoy

[axis]

Originally Posted by ABM Camaro

Yes im seeing that some cold air intakes make you remove the bottle washer which doesn't make sense to me. Im just looks for some simple stuff like a ported throttle body, cold air intake ( what's the best brand for the buck), and headers.

Im thinking

rotofab -$350

vmax - $150

Stainless power or TSP. $650 ish .

The Pfadt look like a gimmick with not much more flow than stock manifolds and have two choke points

and I still have money left for a tune.

Tri y headers aren't a gimmick. They're just another way of doing it. Pfadt is a suspension company so that tells me that since they started making headers, there's more to it than just a gimmick. They look like a piece of art, as do most custom parts they make.

[aggieguy13]

Originally Posted by wally mayfield

"Headers do not know the difference"

thanks for the heads up...

[WHAMMO]

Originally Posted by ABM Camaro

Yes im seeing that some cold air intakes make you remove the bottle washer which doesn't make sense to me. Im just looks for some simple stuff like a ported throttle body, cold air intake ( what's the best brand for the buck), and headers.

Im thinking

rotofab -$350

vmax - $150

Stainless power or TSP. $650 ish .

The Pfadt look like a gimmick with not much more flow than stock manifolds and have two choke points

and I still have money left for a tune.

You could get your stock TB ported by any good shop for less, just FYI if ever you feel like it. Like in 60$

[Nightmare2012]

Tri y headers make more power than regular headers no gimmick there whatsoever pfadt is one of the most reputable manufacturers around.

[axis]

Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Tri y headers make more power than regular headers no gimmick there whatsoever pfadt is one of the most reputable manufacturers around.

I'll agree with my fellow lounge lizard in the fact that Pfadt is quite reputable but i'd like to see someone get their hands on a set for testing. NOT a vendor either. From what I understand, tri y's are made for tq under the curve without sacrificing top end. I'd like to see it for myself though. I do trust that since Pfadt is doing them, there might be something to it.

[Pro Stock John]

I relocated my washer bottle, but I'm trying to go 11.99's stock internal.

[Nightmare2012]

Originally Posted by axis

I'll agree with my fellow lounge lizard in the fact that Pfadt is quite reputable but i'd like to see someone get their hands on a set for testing. NOT a vendor either. From what I understand, tri y's are made for tq under the curve without sacrificing top end. I'd like to see it for myself though. I do trust that since Pfadt is doing them, there might be something to it.

Thank you Mr ninja im sure doc will pick up his soon and have some feedback!! !

[BlaqWhole]

For a budget under $500...you can find used tuners in the area of $150-$300.

Used pulleys for around $150

A Vararam non-tune cold air intake will run you $300. Used you can find them for around $200. The tuned version used are around $300 and new will cost a little under $400.

Custom tunes are not too expensive. I got mine for $135 and I've seen them go to around $400. And you get updates for future mods.

Headers are well over $500 for brand new. At the cheapest you have (I'm gonna say it) OBX and a little more money will get you TSP or Stainless Power. I'm a fiend for 2 inch headers lately and TSP makes the most affordable ones.

For the exhaust you can get BBK mid pipes for less than $200. And then you can get a cheap axle back. The cheaper mufflers may have a lot of drone.

You can find an entire headers to cat-back exhaust for about $900 from some companies.

Basically you have to shop around.

[ABM Camaro]

Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Tri y headers make more power than regular headers no gimmick there whatsoever pfadt is one of the most reputable manufacturers around.

I dont buy all the advertising hype with most of the performance parts i read about. I read t the top of the page that vraram is showing 40 HP gain with an air intake. lol

Im not sure id want American Racing header company to start making my suspension parts

Thats why I made the thread for guys that have the performance parts installed with proven results. I guess im old school where long tube headers were 32 inches long and four separate tubes into one collector.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by ABM Camaro

I dont buy all the advertising hype with most of the performance parts i read about. I read t the top of the page that vraram is showing 40 HP gain with an air intake. lol

Im not sure id want American Racing header company to start making my suspension parts

Thats why I made the thread for guys that have the performance parts installed with proven results. I guess im old school where long tube headers were 32 inches long and four separate tubes into one collector.

I'm a bit skeptical that Tri-Y headers are superior to tradition style headers. I'd have to see some 3rd party dynos before I'm convinced. I mean they look awesome. And the design is unique. But I think at the end of the day they will be similar to traditional style. I mean, headers have been in use all these decades...this style would have been thought up and put on the market a long time ago if it were as superior as it is being made out to be. But I've been wrong before so I'll wait for someone else to post results.

[Camarojt]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I'm a bit skeptical that Tri-Y headers are superior to tradition style headers. I'd have to see some 3rd party dynos before I'm convinced. I mean they look awesome. And the design is unique. But I think at the end of the day they will be similar to traditional style. I mean, headers have been in use all these decades...this style would have been thought up and put on the market a long time ago if it were as superior as it is being made out to be. But I've been wrong before so I'll wait for someone else to post results.

I have heard of 1 independent test besides the Phadt test. This particular shop made 7rwhp over an ARH 1 7/8 header. Which is a pretty considerable gain for a header vs header comparison.

I am waiting to see if anybody else gets similar results.

I think 7hp is possible. Phadt is a very reputable company and puts out very high quality parts. And for the price, I think it's worth 7 extra hp. But more tests will dictate my pulling the trigger on them.

[axis]

Originally Posted by ABM Camaro

I dont buy all the advertising hype with most of the performance parts i read about. I read t the top of the page that vraram is showing 40 HP gain with an air intake. lol

Im not sure id want American Racing header company to start making my suspension parts

Thats why I made the thread for guys that have the performance parts installed with proven results. I guess im old school where long tube headers were 32 inches long and four separate tubes into one collector.

Skepticism is a good thing. I am as well but I know the guys at Pfadt put out some damn fine parts that just plain work. They aren't just a suspension company though. They are VERY active in road course racing their Camaros along with their Vettes and those are pretty much the only cars they do. I see they have added in the CTS line to their inventory as well. Everything they make is road race tested. That's what leads me to believe these headers are at least as good as anything else on the market. As for being better, time and independent testing will tell. These are so new for the Vette and now the Camaro, it's hard to find a lot of comparisons at the moment. It shouldn't be too much longer before we hear how they do. If you're in the market for a set of headers, i'd wait a few weeks to see how these compare. I can tell you that the quality will be absolutely second to none though.