02-12-2010, 07:45 PM | #1 |
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dry vs wet sump...
dry vs wet sump oiling system. which do you think should be on the Z, and why?
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02-12-2010, 08:27 PM | #2 |
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Dry - here's why:
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02-13-2010, 01:34 AM | #3 |
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A dry sump system would suit the spirit of the car. I don't know how much more they cost or what the possible weight penalty might be. But if there isn't too much of a downside, I say go for it.
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But ASSUMING there ever is a Z, I think it would be a nice add, just like it was for the GS Corvette in 2010.
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02-13-2010, 07:40 AM | #5 |
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Check out this story we recently did for Hot Rod Magazine where we converted a dry sump LS7 to wet sump and installed into a 2010 Camaro with before and after testing.
LS7 Dry Sump to Wet Sump Story Putting it into the car Regards, Rick LeBlanc Livernois Motorsports Last edited by Chris@Livernois; 02-13-2010 at 07:54 AM. |
02-13-2010, 08:38 AM | #6 |
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I read both of those stories, the latest one last night. I always wondered why people wanted to keep the dry sump for these cars. Seems like extra weight and extra distance to pump the oil. Good to see there's a solution now.
And just out of curiosity, because I'll never be able to afford to do it, but how long does it take you to do that swap? How long would you think it would take a reasonably competent person to do at home? I know in the magazine you said a couple of days to remove the engine. Is it faster going on? |
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I know when we perform this swap we set aside 2 weeks for it, this allows us ample time to perfect the tune, road test it and make certain it is completed to perfection. As far as someone on their own, well that depends on who the someone is
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02-13-2010, 11:52 AM | #8 |
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The dry sump always seems to be the exotic way to go. The one question is "Where would the tank and air/oil seperator fit?"
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02-13-2010, 01:45 PM | #10 |
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hmmm. I still prefer the dry sump due to the style driving I will be doing. IF the Z28 every comes out.
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02-13-2010, 06:52 PM | #11 |
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Yep. Foamy oil = bad.
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02-13-2010, 07:18 PM | #12 |
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Your install articles and hard work are very appreciated (and thank you). Pointing out the potentially obvious here, it looks like more than a few folks here including myself are would be customers if the solution could be provided. This is especially a strong potential sale if it were to allow for the use of a s/c or t/c intercooler in the front like the Vortech or Pro Charger intercoolers. And then there are the popular filter locations. Many thing are taking up space of where (at least I could see) it would fit. If all this were to happen it would be a very diverse product that would fit any application and more people would be installing a dry sump. (That was my desired plan originally but no one has a marketed solution.) Of course I could be wrong but the general feed back here on dry sump appears to be more than just supportive. You wouldn't have to carry any inventory. You could build to paid order and that would minimize the cost. The margin could still be there for profit and R & D cost recovery when considering a possibility of a group order. I have looked for a solution with at least 6 or 7 of the advertised oil pan and custom billet marketers and came up empty. It is frustrating to say the least. Please give this some consideration and thank you.
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