Help me decide SLP TVS 2300 or a turbonetics kit

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Jessika@SCC

No. The lysholm is a twin screw supercharger. The SLP is a roots supercharger.

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Thanks Jess!

[bob2010ss]

i am biased....but TURBONETICS KIT!!!!
just for the uniqueness factor

[Country Boy]

Turbos are cool and all, but they have many more parts. When I built the turbo for my 2001 SS, there was a ton of parts that killed me. There was 2 things I didn't like about the turbo , one was the hit at full spool. To me, it felt like a N2O hit (used to be a HEAVY N2O junkie) and would kill any chance of traction. A SC is gradual with RPM and giving a lineal power curve. Also is spool on a turbo. No traction = no load = no spool. I couldn't get my full spool of 12 psi until 4th gear.

BTW~ first post.

[Unreal]

That just means you had the wrong size turbo.

[Birm]

I've had a similar dilemna over the last few weeks as all the vendors can attest, I decided to go turbo even though all my mods lean towards a SC.

A few reasons:

1) More power can be made from a turbo with simple adjustments, vs pulley swaps and different units etc...

2) It is more efficient as it uses none of the engine to produce boost which was a big deal for me as I am thinking about longevity here.

3) If tuned correctly the lag can be all but eliminated giving it a more linear power curve but not the torque monster shredding tires from 0mph on..

3) I got a sweet deal

[Country Boy]

Originally Posted by Unreal

That just means you had the wrong size turbo.

Not the wrong size at all. It was a T76GTS on a T4 frame with a. 96ar. Perfect for the LS motor i had. Made 600/600 straight off the street with no adders to the wheels. Turbos work off of load. Try to get one to spool while in park or neutral. No traction = no load/ much less load = no to very little spool.

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[Country Boy]

Originally Posted by Birm

I've had a similar dilemna over the last few weeks as all the vendors can attest, I decided to go turbo even though all my mods lean towards a SC.

A few reasons:

1) More power can be made from a turbo with simple adjustments, vs pulley swaps and different units etc...

2) It is more efficient as it uses none of the engine to produce boost which was a big deal for me as I am thinking about longevity here.

3) If tuned correctly the lag can be all but eliminated giving it a more linear power curve but not the torque monster shredding tires from 0mph on..

3) I got a sweet deal

The SCs these days take very little to drive. A turbo you will have back pressure.


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[Birm]

Originally Posted by Country Boy SS

The SCs these days take very little to drive. A turbo you will have back pressure.


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I have never been FI so I dont know, but I do believe you about the SC. As far as the backpressure kick, can most of this not be mitigated with proper tune?

[SSE 4 2SS]

Originally Posted by Country Boy SS

The SCs these days take very little to drive. A turbo you will have back pressure.


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Belt driven superchargers are still known to be about 50% efficient, whereas Turbos are closer to 80% efficient.

Look at the bigger picture... rather than throwing out a way over simplified statement, especially a statement of questionable accuracy....

I will concede that turbo's create back pressure... that's the nature of the beast... Proper sizing and well designed manifolds will minimize this problem and increase the efficiency of the system. As with any form of forced induction.

I run 2- 67/66 Precision's on my car right now, and with a simple manifold change, gained over 100 HP. I have to mention that I went from the factory cast manifolds to handmade stainless tube manifolds, and we gained over 400 rpm to full boost RPM... I'm making 18 lbs of boost over 400 RPM's earlier... hence... a more efficient system...

Cam, exhaust, and intake selections also play a big part of the efficiency and productivity of the engine... But back to the original statement, belt driven superchargers still take roughly 50% of the power they make to run themselves... while turbos take 10-20 percent of the power they make to run themselves...

It all goes back to driving style and performance desires... A good shop will steer you in the right direction based on your desires and budget...

[Country Boy]

Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

It all goes back to driving style and performance desires... A good shop will steer you in the right direction based on your desires and budget...

This is the best statement in this thread. Both have their ups and downs, but most always think turbos are "free power" which isn't the case.

[RBL]

Just so everybody knows I hooked up with Jessica at supercharger connection and picked up a SLP tvs2300 kit. PCM for less in Moresville in NC will be installing my kit tomorrow.

3.4 pulley, ZR1 MAP, ZL1 pump, roto-fab intake, OBX long tube headers, no cats, magnaflow vt axle back and the ls9 injectors it comes with.

[Jessika]

Originally Posted by RBL

Just so everybody knows I hooked up with Jessica at supercharger connection and picked up a SLP tvs2300 kit. PCM for less in Moresville in NC will be installing my kit tomorrow.

3.4 pulley, ZR1 MAP, ZL1 pump, roto-fab intake, OBX long tube headers, no cats, magnaflow vt axle back and the ls9 injectors it comes with.

Squeeeeeeee!
Two builds starting tomorrow! Exciting

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[Cycule]

Go hellion twin turbos man. You never have to change for more power

[RBL]

Originally Posted by Cycule

Go hellion twin turbos man. You never have to change for more power

I would have liked to but money was a factor.