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2cnd chance · 01-04-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If you are upset because a possible Z/28 would be a great performer, why aren't you protesting the ZL1 which already exists?

Absolutely!

Or just trade-in for the Z28. The Camaros are holding their values quite well.

CamaroRBT · 01-04-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by slick rick

There will always be something better

Like when 2012 ZL1's had the old radio and 2013's got MyLink/Nav.

Well said

Scott@Bjorn3D · 01-04-2013, 06:00 PM

I am thinking the Z28 could be a SS option like the 1LE, includes 1LE suspension and LS7. They have to be careful not to price it out of the market. I think the ZL1 will stay the king Camaro.

Zl1 #586 · 01-04-2013, 07:05 PM

the best of both in high performance camaros so far .time will tell if we need to put one in the middle

No shaft here

beany323 · 01-04-2013, 07:25 PM

i'll just add a z badge. that will add like 5-10 hp easy.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 01-04-2013, 07:39 PM

There is a way to fix this, buy 1 of all the 5gen cars, 2010 LT 2010 SS then a 2011 convertible in yous trim, now you need a 2012-13 ZL1 and a 1LE and next the hot wheels car and so on.

radametz · 01-04-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron

what happens IF gm releases the ls7 powered car next year that is said to be all but certian? the car will for sure be a z-28 and have all the same goodies as the zl1, which really screws current 1le owners..

thoughts?

Not really...that would mean that 2013 would be the only model year that the 1LE was produced, making our cars low-production cars.

And as it was said before, there's always going to be something better. I knew there'd be something better down the road (possible Z/28, a lighter, more powerful 6th gen, etc) so it doesn't bother me.

*radz28* · 01-04-2013, 08:34 PM

I think it MIGHT be "screwing" 1LE owners IF it was a similar price. Even IF, Z28 returns, it's not going to be close to 1LE in price. Who could reasonably ask for LS7 powertrain with 1LE for similar price?

I don't think Z28 returning would/should make any CAMARO-owner feel anything less than happy about the situation. JMVHO.

tones2SS · 01-04-2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn18

IF.....They build it and it is a Z28. The mark-ups will be crazy and the lines will be long to get one. Don't get me wrong the ZL1 is a monster but its not worlds away from the 1LE......

BINGO!!!
The 1LE is a great car and it is modeled after the ZL1. If they build the Z28, so be it. Trade up in a couple of years, if that is your choice.

SPCBA · 01-04-2013, 08:59 PM

I suspect many of you have never driven an ls7 powered car before. The power will be just below the supercharged lsa. With simple bolt ons it will be a wicked ride. With that said 1le is not modeled after a zl1 aside from a few styling cues. Suspension brakes rear end engine and on an on are completely different.

If the ls7 or hopefully z28 is in the 40's I will keep my 2010 2SSRS and add a ls7/z28 to my collection. The ls7 really is quite a thrill to drive. Would love to have a 2SS/RS/1LE with the ls7 as an option. I can dump the weight to make it a true successor of the first gens z28 and drive it around the local road courses. The roval in fontana demands this car be made. This car will destroy any competing companies pony car. The ss is already a much better car than the gt. The zl1 is better at everything than the supercharged mustang aside from the drag strip.

toehead93 · 01-05-2013, 11:14 AM

There is also a very small chance the Ls7 is high output 550hp like tye LS7 concept. I would really like to see ZL1 breaks as an option and maybe adjustable coilovers.

FINALLYSATISFIED · 01-05-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by x1sniper3x

Not really...that would mean that 2013 would be the only model year that the 1LE was produced, making our cars low-production cars.

And as it was said before, there's always going to be something better. I knew there'd be something better down the road (possible Z/28, a lighter, more powerful 6th gen, etc) so it doesn't bother me.

I can dig that!

Even if the Z/28 releases you can bet I wouldn't buy the very first model year, I'd most likely get the 2nd or 3rd being that they will make improvements. Just like I wouldn't get a '12 ZL1, I'd get a '13 or '14.

The 1LE is an amazing car, if anything the ZL1 owners should be fearing about getting the shaft. 580HP and 426HP, what were the times at VIR again?

Chevyman2 · 01-05-2013, 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=MY1STCAMAR0;5995384]I can dig that!

Even if the Z/28 releases you can bet I wouldn't buy the very first model year, I'd most likely get the 2nd or 3rd being that they will make improvements. Just like I wouldn't get a '12 ZL1, I'd get a '13 or '14.

That's why I waited till 13 model came out myself think most bugs are worked out by now. I settle for 3.6 right now until I can comfortably afford 6.2 liter.

FINALLYSATISFIED · 01-05-2013, 04:11 PM

You know, all this LS7 Z/28 talk, whose to say a 2LE performance package with the upgrade engine wouldn't be released and the Z/28 will be released as a 6th Gen.

Just doesn't make sense with 1-2 years left for the current model why GM would release a Z/28.

1LS
2LS
1LT
2LT
1SS
2SS

"2" seems to be superior, so a 2LE seems possible. YEAH I SAID THAT!

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01-04-2013, 07:25 PM	#19
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01-04-2013, 08:34 PM	#22
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,186 View My Garage	I think it MIGHT be "screwing" 1LE owners IF it was a similar price. Even IF, Z28 returns, it's not going to be close to 1LE in price. Who could reasonably ask for LS7 powertrain with 1LE for similar price? I don't think Z28 returning would/should make any CAMARO-owner feel anything less than happy about the situation. JMVHO. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

01-05-2013, 11:14 AM	#25
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	There is also a very small chance the Ls7 is high output 550hp like tye LS7 concept. I would really like to see ZL1 breaks as an option and maybe adjustable coilovers. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

01-04-2013, 06:00 PM	#17
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	I am thinking the Z28 could be a SS option like the 1LE, includes 1LE suspension and LS7. They have to be careful not to price it out of the market. I think the ZL1 will stay the king Camaro.

01-04-2013, 07:39 PM	#20
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	There is a way to fix this, buy 1 of all the 5gen cars, 2010 LT 2010 SS then a 2011 convertible in yous trim, now you need a 2012-13 ZL1 and a 1LE and next the hot wheels car and so on.

01-04-2013, 08:59 PM	#24
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	I suspect many of you have never driven an ls7 powered car before. The power will be just below the supercharged lsa. With simple bolt ons it will be a wicked ride. With that said 1le is not modeled after a zl1 aside from a few styling cues. Suspension brakes rear end engine and on an on are completely different. If the ls7 or hopefully z28 is in the 40's I will keep my 2010 2SSRS and add a ls7/z28 to my collection. The ls7 really is quite a thrill to drive. Would love to have a 2SS/RS/1LE with the ls7 as an option. I can dump the weight to make it a true successor of the first gens z28 and drive it around the local road courses. The roval in fontana demands this car be made. This car will destroy any competing companies pony car. The ss is already a much better car than the gt. The zl1 is better at everything than the supercharged mustang aside from the drag strip.

01-05-2013, 03:52 PM	#27
Chevyman2 Drives: 2018 zl1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Caswell County, NC Posts: 599 View My Garage	[QUOTE=MY1STCAMAR0;5995384]I can dig that! Even if the Z/28 releases you can bet I wouldn't buy the very first model year, I'd most likely get the 2nd or 3rd being that they will make improvements. Just like I wouldn't get a '12 ZL1, I'd get a '13 or '14. That's why I waited till 13 model came out myself think most bugs are worked out by now. I settle for 3.6 right now until I can comfortably afford 6.2 liter.

01-05-2013, 04:11 PM	#28
FINALLYSATISFIED Est.1775 Drives: '15 Challenger Hellcat (sold) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,502	You know, all this LS7 Z/28 talk, whose to say a 2LE performance package with the upgrade engine wouldn't be released and the Z/28 will be released as a 6th Gen. Just doesn't make sense with 1-2 years left for the current model why GM would release a Z/28. 1LS 2LS 1LT 2LT 1SS 2SS "2" seems to be superior, so a 2LE seems possible. YEAH I SAID THAT!