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10-16-2013, 12:03 PM | #30 | |
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The 3.91 in the 1LE is offset by the different gearing in the TR6060. combined with a hard sidewall road race tire and the fact that it must shift into 4th to complete the 1/4 mile make the SS (non 1LE) better for drag racing. (stock vs stock)
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10-16-2013, 01:50 PM | #31 | |
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Well looking at that Camaro vs Mustang video, the 1LE did a 12.7 sec & trapped at almost 112mph. That is better than most stock SS cars tested in the car rags.
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10-16-2013, 02:32 PM | #32 |
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We gonna play this weekend and we both gonna have gopro to put this to rest if it dont rain
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10-16-2013, 02:33 PM | #33 | |
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Here you Go: MM6 w/ 3.91 (Stock 1LE) 1st gear ratio: 2.66 10.40 2nd gear ratio: 1.78 6.96 3rd gear ratio: 1.30 5.09 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.91 5th gear ratio: 0.74 2.90 6th gear ratio: 0.50 1.96 M10 w/ 3.45 (Stock SS) 1st gear ratio: 3.01 10.38 2nd gear ratio: 2.07 7.14 3rd gear ratio: 1.43 4.93 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.45 5th gear ratio: 0.84 2.90 6th gear ratio: 0.57 1.97 Tires: Ha, I have driven both a stock SS and my stock 1LE.....The tires are VERY different. The stock SS 275 hook way better in the same conditions than the 285 Goodyear G2... The GY require a ton of heat before they work... -Matt
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10-16-2013, 03:28 PM | #34 | |
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.....Says the guy that barely breaks 12s in a modded automatic SS when stock SS have been as deep as 12.7s...Talk about not being able to drive an AUTOMATIC!!!! Yeah, I suck 12) CAMARO 1LE Bone Stock https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Wc&usp=sharing 13) Camaro 1LE Plus Bolt-On's ] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing Your move!
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10-16-2013, 05:02 PM | #35 |
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You are basing your argument on a pool of 5 cars and comparing it to hundreds. Give me a week or two and you will rethink your points.
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10-16-2013, 05:30 PM | #36 | |
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Ha, yes a 2.1 is not good.....Ran a couple 2.0 on the tires but that is all she had that day on the track. So you have a neon that apparently went faster? Yeah you! My PB is a 1.57 60ft in a street car ...John force I am not, but I have wheeled a car or two down the track. You are telling me my bone stock LS3 is making more power than you L99 with header, CAI and tuned L99....That sucks for you, fire your tuner! You are giving me drag racing advice very kind of you, consider you drive and auto. (yeah yeah you had a Skittle, building a 9 second Mustang blah blah whatever...) FYI: Whole = complete, Hole = as in holeshot, coming out of the hole. ect Seeing you are from Jersey and I am from Detroit this could go on forever......For the sake of others you can get in one more response and I will refrain from posting again. Must go learn to drive now....
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10-16-2013, 05:33 PM | #37 |
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You are suppose to go this weekend...make it happen!
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There should be 2 more additional 1LE's up on that list by Sunday night. My long range weather forecast for Sunday looks like high of 55 and sunny!
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10-17-2013, 05:42 AM | #39 |
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Well my track has some special shootout this weekend, so my trip will have to hold off till next. AutoX on saturday it is
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10-17-2013, 09:28 AM | #41 | ||
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There are significant differences in the speeds attainable in the various transmission gears between an SS 6-speed manual and the 1LE's.
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So let's concentrate on 3rd. The 1LE also has shorter tires, which run at about 750 rev/mile compared to the "regular" SS tires at about 730. You have to combine that effect with the 1LE having slightly shorter overall gearing in 3rd. Bottom line, the 1LE only gets about 98 mph out of 3rd gear (at 6250 rpm). A MT SS gets all the way to about 110 at the same rev limit, and will be slowly pulling away from the 1LE during the last few mph. I hope you realize that during an upshift at 98 mph that the car will actually slow down slightly, although some (not all) of that speed loss is recovered if you don't lift while you are shifting. Yes, I ran the speeds in gears numbers because it's really easy for me to show these kinds of comparisons. Tire tread compression has been considered, so the speeds in the attached chart differ slightly from what the online tire calculators come up with (which should consider this effect but don't). Sidewall height definitely affects a tire's ability to withstand shock loading. More height = more flex = less likely to instantly snap loose in a full-blown case of wheelspin. Most road race cars do not ET as well as their trap speed suggests that they should, and this is part of the reason. Norm Last edited by Norm Peterson; 10-17-2013 at 09:40 AM. |
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Getting a heavy stick car to run quick ain't all that easy. Give it some time and the 1LE list will get better.
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