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banovsky · 08-19-2009, 01:17 PM

…please don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that people are still passionate about cars. And Camaro owners are some of the most passionate out there. But when I review a vehicle, it's from an objective standpoint, despite the amount of flowery language I'll use.

As such, Motor Trend came to many of the conclusions that I did. Including the Mazda Miata being rated a better sports car.

I'll be testing a Camaro SS soon, after having driven one briefly two weeks ago at the GM proving grounds. Don't worry, I won't mention headroom or trunk space ever again.

Cheers, M!

SleepWarz · 08-19-2009, 01:20 PM

Not a single straight male drives a miata... I hope...

Hylton · 08-19-2009, 01:20 PM

Well I come back to the fact that you did not attempt to adjust the seat before making your headroom statement. With respect to your trunk space comment, what did you put in the trunk to test it's space? Have you tried to put two hockey bags in it? I have so I don't know how you could have made your comments and expect to be taken seriously.

That's really the issue regarding your desire to be accepted as a legitimate car reviewer - you made statements about the Camaro which can be proven untrue.

Regarding the Miata - smarten up! Putting both vehicles in the same market segment is only more proof of your incompetence in car reviewing.

FenwickHockey65 · 08-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Still found it a completely useless review.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 08-19-2009, 01:26 PM

Tread lightly people or I will drop this thread like a bad habit.

Tecca · 08-19-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylton

Regarding the Miata - smarten up! Putting both vehicles in the same market segment is only more proof of your incompetence in car reviewing.

Iwantone2 · 08-19-2009, 01:27 PM

My review...I LOVE my Camaro!!!

Hylton · 08-19-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

Tread lightly people or I will drop this thread like a bad habit.

The guy reviews cars and he published his review. Accordingly, his work should be open for criticism.

67 Convertible · 08-19-2009, 01:28 PM

You are entitled to your opinion and I mine. That's what makes the world go 'round. I absolutely love my Camaro and I'm not a Camaro apologist, I just plain like the car.

MrIcky · 08-19-2009, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banovsky

…please don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that people are still passionate about cars. And Camaro owners are some of the most passionate out there. But when I review a vehicle, it's from an objective standpoint, despite the amount of flowery language I'll use.

As such, Motor Trend came to many of the conclusions that I did. Including the Mazda Miata being rated a better sports car.

I'll be testing a Camaro SS soon, after having driven one briefly two weeks ago at the GM proving grounds. Don't worry, I won't mention headroom or trunk space ever again.

Cheers, M!

I am not sure I get your point; does this mean you are buying a Miata instead of a Camaro? Bully for you!

Argh, here be trolls!

sailfan26 · 08-19-2009, 01:29 PM

Wannabees and Naysayers. I guess the ol' adage applies. You can't please everyone all the time. The Camaro has been the best thing to happen to America in a long time. Enough of the Miata's, Camry's et al. Haven't seen this much excitement in a car in a long time. Let him write his "little" reports and reviews. I respect the fact it's his job, someones got to do it or all we'd see is the reports on how wonderful the 2010 Camaro is.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 08-19-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylton

The guy reviews cars and he published his review. Accordingly, his work should be open for criticism.

I'm not saying you cannot criticize him. I am saying to do it in a adult-like, respectable manner!

*GTAHVIT* · 08-19-2009, 01:32 PM

Obviously we'd like it to be respectful criticism.... But criticism none the less.

ffrcobra_65 · 08-19-2009, 01:32 PM

Nah, this doesn't bother me one bit. Come on, Laguna Seca?!!? Of course the heavier cars will do badly on this course. The track is perfect for M3, 911, Miata and similar cars and motorcyles. Nonetheless, how many Camaro or Mustang or Challenger buyers actually buy these cars with the intent of circling a track like Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, et al. in their stock suspension set up? Opinions on appearance and driver comfort are all relative/subjective to each individual.
But they/you got one thing absolutely correct, the Camaro SS is a boulevard brute and that is partly the main reason why I bought mine, a pretty nice canvas to draw more HP on if so desired IMO. The awesome exterior appearance is just a bonus.

Thank you very much, Mustang man.

08-19-2009, 01:17 PM	#1
banovsky Drives: Tatra T613 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1	Sorry guys and girls, but… …please don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that people are still passionate about cars. And Camaro owners are some of the most passionate out there. But when I review a vehicle, it's from an objective standpoint, despite the amount of flowery language I'll use. As such, Motor Trend came to many of the conclusions that I did. Including the Mazda Miata being rated a better sports car. I'll be testing a Camaro SS soon, after having driven one briefly two weeks ago at the GM proving grounds. Don't worry, I won't mention headroom or trunk space ever again. Cheers, M!

08-19-2009, 01:20 PM	#3
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,280	Well I come back to the fact that you did not attempt to adjust the seat before making your headroom statement. With respect to your trunk space comment, what did you put in the trunk to test it's space? Have you tried to put two hockey bags in it? I have so I don't know how you could have made your comments and expect to be taken seriously. That's really the issue regarding your desire to be accepted as a legitimate car reviewer - you made statements about the Camaro which can be proven untrue. Regarding the Miata - smarten up! Putting both vehicles in the same market segment is only more proof of your incompetence in car reviewing. __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"

08-19-2009, 01:22 PM	#4
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Still found it a completely useless review. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

08-19-2009, 01:26 PM	#5
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,709 View My Garage	Tread lightly people or I will drop this thread like a bad habit. __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

08-19-2009, 01:27 PM	#7
Iwantone2 Voice Of The Voiceless Drives: CGM 1SS RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OC Cali Posts: 9,617 View My Garage	My review...I LOVE my Camaro!!! __________________

08-19-2009, 01:20 PM	#2
SleepWarz Banned Drives: 1991 New Yorker, 69 Tbird, ABM2SSRS Join Date: May 2009 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,248 View My Garage	Not a single straight male drives a miata... I hope...

08-19-2009, 01:28 PM	#9
67 Convertible Drives: 67 Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MA Posts: 1,721	You are entitled to your opinion and I mine. That's what makes the world go 'round. I absolutely love my Camaro and I'm not a Camaro apologist, I just plain like the car. __________________ _____________________________________________ 2LT/RS RJT, Blk Rally Stripes, Beige Interior, Sunroof Placed order at dealer 4/24/09 1100 - 4/28/09 2000 - 5/01/09 2500 - 5/05/09 3000 - 5/05/09 3300 - 5/30/09 3400 - 6/05/09 3800 - 6/18/09 4000 - 6/18/09 4B00 - 6/18/09 4200 - 6/22/09 5000 - 7/01/09 6000 - 7/01/09 It's Home!! 0000 - 7/14/11 Traded in with 24,000 miles. Currently 5th Gen less

08-19-2009, 01:29 PM	#11
sailfan26 Camaro driver since 1975 Drives: 97 RS, 98 SS and 2010 LT/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Shore, Massachusetts Posts: 181	Wannabees and Naysayers. I guess the ol' adage applies. You can't please everyone all the time. The Camaro has been the best thing to happen to America in a long time. Enough of the Miata's, Camry's et al. Haven't seen this much excitement in a car in a long time. Let him write his "little" reports and reviews. I respect the fact it's his job, someones got to do it or all we'd see is the reports on how wonderful the 2010 Camaro is.

08-19-2009, 01:32 PM	#13
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Obviously we'd like it to be respectful criticism.... But criticism none the less. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

08-19-2009, 01:32 PM	#14
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	Nah, this doesn't bother me one bit. Come on, Laguna Seca?!!? Of course the heavier cars will do badly on this course. The track is perfect for M3, 911, Miata and similar cars and motorcyles. Nonetheless, how many Camaro or Mustang or Challenger buyers actually buy these cars with the intent of circling a track like Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, et al. in their stock suspension set up? Opinions on appearance and driver comfort are all relative/subjective to each individual. But they/you got one thing absolutely correct, the Camaro SS is a boulevard brute and that is partly the main reason why I bought mine, a pretty nice canvas to draw more HP on if so desired IMO. The awesome exterior appearance is just a bonus. Thank you very much, Mustang man.