[TheRedhead]

Reader's Digest Version: Don't do it.

So, I come from the drag racing world and haven't been to the track in about a year and wanted to see what she'd do and stretch her legs.

It was in the low 60's here in FL and that wasn't helping anything with the 3R. Any amount of RPM over 3k would light the tires to the 60'. Anything under would bog the car for half a second.

2.3 60' isn't going to light the world on fire. Tried launch control once, feathering a bit, and ran through all combinations with the nannies and whatnot. I never found the sweet spot.

Needless to say, without any mods, mainly a tune to get rid of the clutch protection, I won't be back to the drag strip.

I did, however, find the No Lift Shift feature flawless. Took it to just before redline and left my foot flat. Like butter. Spot on Chevrolet.

Now, a newb I am not. I've been drag racing for 15 years. But this damn car is confusing!

I'll post the slips and some of the PDR in a little bit, but just wanted to share.

[Stephen12ZL1]

just like the Z/28...the ZL1 1LE has a terrible suspension for drag racing. I commend your efforts!

[TheRedhead]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

just like the Z/28...the ZL1 1LE has a terrible suspension for drag racing. I commend your efforts!

My TVS GT had Strange 10 way fronts and Viking Dual Rears.

Yes, this suspension is not drag strip friendly!

Thank you!

[travislambert]

Manual transmissions are less than ideal for drag racing. With that said, I still like to take mine out once in a while too.

The more you take it out, the more you'll see that this car has an issue launching. It's very unlikely that you'll be able to get to the advertised time of a 11.8 for the M6.

I've had threads going on this subject since June. I have data that shows the problem, and I've been pushing hard to get answers from the Camaro team.

If you're interested please show support in the Ask Al thread by posting something, even if it's just a "+1"... or perhaps "#MeToo".

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515791

[silverbullet415]

The 3r tire is terrible when cold, with drag radials it would be very different

[TheRedhead]

Originally Posted by travislambert

Manual transmissions are less than ideal for drag racing. With that said, I still like to take mine out once in a while too.

The more you take it out, the more you'll see that this car has an issue launching. It's very unlikely that you'll be able to get to the advertised time of a 11.8 for the M6.

I've had threads going on this subject since June. I have data that shows the problem, and I've been pushing hard to get answers from the Camaro team.

If you're interested please show support in the Ask Al thread by posting something, even if it's just a "+1"... or perhaps "#MeToo".

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515791

I've always had a stick.

With a stiff sidewall MT, WOT/2 Step, and RXT clutch it was pretty simple. Even before the 2 step I'd just feather the throttle. That was my SRA 14 GT.

This car is like nothing I have ever experienced.

[travislambert]

Originally Posted by silverbullet415

The 3r tire is terrible when cold, with drag radials it would be very different

Agreed, the 3Rs aren't going to work well for cold temps.

However, when you find the tire that provides loads of grip you'll find that the car is still slow on launch.

The reason is, when you torque up the driveline, the software (torque management) is going to punish you by pulling engine power. The more you grip, the more power it pulls.

[TheRedhead]

Originally Posted by silverbullet415

The 3r tire is terrible when cold, with drag radials it would be very different

I have a set of NT05R brand new from another project. 305 17's. Working on securing a set of Welds and see what happens.

[TheRedhead]

Originally Posted by travislambert

Agreed, the 3Rs aren't going to work well for cold temps.

However, when you find the tire that provides loads of grip you'll find that the car is still slow on launch.

The reason is, when you torque up the driveline, the software (torque management) is going to punish you by pulling engine power. The more you grip, the more power it pulls.

Definitely what's happening.

[ndnashlenz]

Originally Posted by travislambert

Agreed, the 3Rs aren't going to work well for cold temps.

However, when you find the tire that provides loads of grip you'll find that the car is still slow on launch.

The reason is, when you torque up the driveline, the software (torque management) is going to punish you by pulling engine power. The more you grip, the more power it pulls.

wow did not know that. I wonder if there is anyway to disable that.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by ndnashlenz

wow did not know that. I wonder if there is anyway to disable that.

Yes, tune.

[travislambert]

Originally Posted by ndnashlenz

wow did not know that. I wonder if there is anyway to disable that.

Nope. The entire E92 ECM that the Camaro uses is torque management based. There's no way to disable it. The best you can hope for is a tune that allows sufficient torque to be put down to achieve a good launch.

The A10 torque management coefficients allows it to launch pretty hard. The M6 torque management coefficients make it so soft it's impossible to get a good launch. It's nearly impossible to achieve 60' in less than 2 seconds with the M6 (and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to do it).

I've been pushing hard for an update from GM for this.

[travislambert]

Honestly, I wouldn't waste your time/money on drag radials for the M6. Many guys before you have done it and ended up with worse times because of the way torque management is tuned for these cars.

Now, if GM fixes the software for us, then it's a different conversation. The drag radials will certainly help in that case.

Please show your support in the Ask Al thread for this:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10011015

Every "+1" should help to ensure this question makes it into the next poll.

[TheRedhead]

Originally Posted by travislambert

Honestly, I wouldn't waste your time/money on drag radials for the M6. Many guys before you have done it and ended up with worse times because of the way torque management is tuned for these cars.

Now, if GM fixes the software for us, then it's a different conversation. The drag radials will certainly help in that case.

Please show your support in the Ask Al thread for this:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10011015

Every "+1" should help to ensure this question makes it into the next poll.

I used to do customer service for American Muscle. We had credits left over and I got those.

Deciding whether to spend a grand on Welds, however.

Are you saying there is no way to tune it out?