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Originally Posted by motorhead

Wow! I missed that. Good for the Ford fans. Got to love these power wars we are in. Wonder where it ends. Just read about a Tesla that does 1.6 zero to 60 with a 250mph top end.

Not one can complete a Nurburgring run without overheating. That extends to every Tesla model that has been ran!!

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Tune & Tire will not make a 2018 Mustang GT run low
11’s. Tune & a Tire change on a 2018 Mustang will smoke a new ZL1??? ����*♂️[/QUOTE


Mustang is good for one thing 0-60 magazine racing as I ran a GT A10 from - Roll & it was not much of a race.

[Raven87]

So I think what some of the 18 Mustang fanbase (and the ZL1 dismissives) are trying to parlay into low 11's with a 'tire/tune' is the fact that Evan Smith recently ran a full stock (to the tire) 18 GT A10 at a very impressive 11.835 in mineshaft DA on a well prepped track in near perfect conditions.

This is now their rallying cry that they are going to use when citing this obvious hero run and then saying that if THEIR car had a tune and tire and if THAT car ran a 11.835 fully stock, then shucks almighty, THEIR car will run low 11's all day long and smoke every ZL1 made.

Folks - it just ain't happenin'... It does NOT work that way.

So, what they fail to think about is that had Evan Smith had an A10 ZL1 on hand on that SAME day at the SAME track in the SAME conditions, he would have easily reeled in a 10.XXX.

I like the new '18 GT but - I like reality a whole lot more.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Raven87

So I think what some of the 18 Mustang fanbase (and the ZL1 dismissives) are trying to parlay into low 11's with a 'tire/tune' is the fact that Evan Smith recently ran a full stock (to the tire) 18 GT A10 at a very impressive 11.835 in mineshaft DA on a well prepped track in near perfect conditions.

This is now their rallying cry that they are going to use when citing this obvious hero run and then saying that if THEIR car had a tune and tire and if THAT car ran a 11.835 fully stock, then shucks almighty, THEIR car will run low 11's all day long and smoke every ZL1 made.

Folks - it just ain't happenin'... It does NOT work that way.

So, what they fail to think about is that had Evan Smith had an A10 ZL1 on hand on that SAME day at the SAME track in the SAME conditions, he would have easily reeled in a 10.XXX.

I like the new '18 GT but - I like reality a whole lot more.

What people really need to understand is that all of these cars are awesome at what they can do. My 05 Mustang GT had 300HP and only ran a 13.1. People thought that was great.
This petty back and fourth is meaningless. After all there are much faster cars than Camaros and Mustangs in this world. Just enjoy which ever one puts the fire under your ass and dont worry about a couple of tenths of a second. It means nothing unless you are racing for money or a class win. The rest is just for fun stuff.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by motorhead

What people really need to understand is that all of these cars are awesome at what they can do. My 05 Mustang GT had 300HP and only ran a 13.1. People thought that was great.
This petty back and fourth is meaningless. After all there are much faster cars than Camaros and Mustangs in this world. Just enjoy which ever one puts the fire under your ass and dont worry about a couple of tenths of a second. It means nothing unless you are racing for money or a class win. The rest is just for fun stuff.

You left out challengers in your much faster cars in the world, Freudian slip?

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[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Raven87

So I think what some of the 18 Mustang fanbase (and the ZL1 dismissives) are trying to parlay into low 11's with a 'tire/tune' is the fact that Evan Smith recently ran a full stock (to the tire) 18 GT A10 at a very impressive 11.835 in mineshaft DA on a well prepped track in near perfect conditions.

This is now their rallying cry that they are going to use when citing this obvious hero run and then saying that if THEIR car had a tune and tire and if THAT car ran a 11.835 fully stock, then shucks almighty, THEIR car will run low 11's all day long and smoke every ZL1 made.

Folks - it just ain't happenin'... It does NOT work that way.

So, what they fail to think about is that had Evan Smith had an A10 ZL1 on hand on that SAME day at the SAME track in the SAME conditions, he would have easily reeled in a 10.XXX.

I like the new '18 GT but - I like reality a whole lot more.

The person who originally started that nonsense about the GT keeping up with ZL1s was just trying to troll us. But the Mustang idiots actually started to believe him, lol! Which is why I wanted to clear it up earlier when I read someone posting that. As awesome as people think the 18 GT is, it in no way can compare to the ZL1. And it's a shame that we live in a world where we actually have to state this obvious fact. Even with the bogging issues a ZL1 should still beat a GT on the same day at the same track.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Ive been on this fourm since 2009(well C5 where this fourm was born from). I dont noitice the sea of trolls you are claiming. Maybe beause Im not focused on looking for them. I always looked at this Internet troll stuff as sort of childish. I used to play along, but anymore I just think of how silly it all is. I just chose not to play in that part of the Internet anymore. It isnt real anyhow.

There was one guy on here and his handle was FANBOY. He gave everyone a run for their money and especially BLAQWHOLE. Nothing against BLAQWHOLE at all, I chimed in too. So that is sticking in everyone's mind I am sure. He must have drowned or banned

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I agree that it does seem like a good amount of the M6 ZL1s are plagued with this issue. But there also are a lot of people who have not had this issue at all. As far as the options, some of them have some sort of drag mode option or something like that. Apparently it helps. Not all of them have it tho. And if the majority of them are having bogging issues, then if one runs good, that can't be considered a "hero run". It isn't a hero run, it's just that they are having issues...to what extent we don't know at the present time. The 11.8 GT was indeed a hero run...since I have not seen any other GT bone stock break 11s. From what I've seen it was that one guy that one time.

I would put money that you in your ZL1 against an 18 GT in any configuration would come out ahead even with the bogging issue if the run is on the same day and same track and provided it isn't against a pro driver. Even with a pro-driver and even if you bogged I would still say the ZL1 is faster. Especially since there are a good amount of them that can only muster a low 12 even with DRs. Think what you want about which one is faster. But the 18 GT is not faster than the ZL1 at all. Your comparison is like saying a can beat a Z06 if the Z06 driver misses a shift. And you can't just make a statement based off the possibility that the ZL1 might bog. Off the rip, car to car, the ZL1 is the faster car.

Well aren't hero runs something that is done only once and done basically on a fluke? As reported he (18 GT) also went 11.86/119, 11.89/118.80 and then the very first run down the track was 11.94/119 with higher air pressure in the rear. The 11.8's were done on 26 psi. It's pretty consistent for one person to run like that.

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Originally Posted by hashtag

Not one can complete a Nurburgring run without overheating. That extends to every Tesla model that has been ran!!

I missed this post. I had no idea those cars had a problem like that. For whatever reason I didn't think it was an issue for Teslas. Very interesting to know but that is certainly indeed one of the few tracks I could understand them overheating on, ha. They are handful though and if the new generation is coming out, can't be beat.

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Originally Posted by Snagged

Well aren't hero runs something that is done only once and done basically on a fluke? As reported he (18 GT) also went 11.86/119, 11.89/118.80 and then the very first run down the track was 11.94/119 with higher air pressure in the rear. The 11.8's were done on 26 psi. It's pretty consistent for one person to run like that.

I didn't see that information...granted I didn't care enough to pay attention to every detail. What I did see was that he got the 11.8 and then he was back in the 12s and I think he ended the day with a 12.1 or something like that. Again, wasn't really interested.

[Blown355]

Originally Posted by Infern0

So, it looks like the 2018 GT posted 11.8 straight from the showroom yesterday afternoon. : /

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-t...18-mustang-gt/

Congratulations Ford, you finally caught up with a bone stock Camaro SS A8.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427506

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Originally Posted by Snagged

I missed this post. I had no idea those cars had a problem like that. For whatever reason I didn't think it was an issue for Teslas. Very interesting to know but that is certainly indeed one of the few tracks I could understand them overheating on, ha. They are handful though and if the new generation is coming out, can't be beat.

The only place you could beat Tesla’s is on a road course

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by hashtag

The only place you could beat Tesla’s is on a road course

Yep, especially once they go limp from overheated batteries.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Sven59

You left out challengers in your much faster cars in the world, Freudian slip?

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No I didn't. I said much faster. See no reason to include the kiddie. You really don't get it.
You prove that with every post. Good job kid.