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Classic Example of late model collectibility:
2000 Cobra R - Total Production 300, one year only. MSRP $55k. Very high markup past MSRP. Historically significant. The fastest Mustang built up to that point, good race history. Price climbed for years. Today? Low mileage = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang...US_Cars_Trucks
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2002 Z06 "Blue Meanie" 11.36 ET
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04-22-2014, 03:15 PM | #31 |
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They need to lend people a Volt for a week and tell them how to use it right.
The Volt is a hellavu car. Way under-rated by the magazines. Nimble, quick, and comfy for an econobox. It's my favorite car to drive on crowded city streets. Power is instant, and carves like a knife. What the dealer and mags don't tell you: Always drive in L range. This is not low gear. It is maximum regeneration. Chop the throttle and it slows like high compression manual trans. Always drive in Sport Mode. More fun. 3585 miles now, and it's used 7.8 gallons of gas, and used $93 worth of electricity. BUT... It's not the economy that makes it fun to drive. Can you imagine driving for months and never stopping at a gas station?
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2002 Z06 "Blue Meanie" 11.36 ET
2003 Z06 in progress 2009 CTS-V "Spooky" 12.36 ET, bone stock at 1600 mi. Rainy day in Sacramento. Sadness. 2010 ZR1 "Satan" no times yet. 2013 Volt SCCA Solo2 #771 HS3. And a bunch of Duramaxes. |
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convert that $93.00 into gallons of gas. say 3.50 per gallon and you are getting over 100mpg
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04-23-2014, 10:59 AM | #33 |
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.
In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.
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Seriously though, we have to give thanks to my buddy who could have purchased an SS Camaro but given that he had just piled on some more student debt he opted for a Cruise because of cheaper up front and usage costs. So he's helping us out with that CAFE nonsense. Wish I had the change to add a Z/28 to my garage. Just wasn't willing to give up my current car to get one. Collector's value or not, it will be a historic icon.
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04-23-2014, 11:31 AM | #36 |
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If and when a 6Gen Z/28 is made it will affect the 5Gen's value. If better performing you'll see the 5Gen Z/28 lose value. If they only make a 6Gen Z28 (no slash) that will affect the 5Gen's positively.
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was going to post this I am 33. In the year 2045 i am supposed to retire (according to my 401k). I could see cars like the Cobra R, Ford GT, Z/28 etc going for a mint then. That is also 30 years down the road. Other cars that might bring in some coin - Acura Integra Type Rs and Evos - the imports that everyone wanted in the early 2000s - because those were the affordable "race cars" people wanted. One of my brother works for a hot rod shop - they used to specialize in the traditional "hot rods" (32 ford roadsters etc) but he said that is a dying market for them. The muscle cars are the indemand thing now. I am sure we will get to a point where even those 60s and early 70s car will take a huge hit because people never could relate to them. |
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i love the Volt. It is a fun car and tried getting the wife into one but she wants a 3rd kid sooooo it is out. But did a quick math - $93 at $4/gal = 23.25 gal worth of gas. 7.8+23.25=31.05 total cost in gas. 3585miles/31.05 = 115.46mpg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or in terms of just fuel (say you have free electricity from solar power) 459.6mpg It is a kick ass car in that respect |
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Not a lot of cars in the digital era are. Example, they made 3/4 million of First Gen Camaros. 20 years later, nearly all models that were clean and original sold for more than original MSRP on the used market. They made 7,000 ZR-1 Corvettes. That's 1% of the first gen Camaro numbers. Twenty years later, they sell for far under MSRP. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Co...US_Cars_Trucks People want the Classics because most collectors grew up in the muscle car era. Many still believe they were the pinnacle of American cars. They really believe muscle cars ran 11 second ET's off the showroom floor, not the 15 sec ET's that were more common for the performance models. They want the fantasy of the car they could not afford growing up, not the actual high maintenance, low durability, crappy handling, worthless brakes, low power, gas guzzlers that they really were. They are buying the looks and the memory of that era.
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