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Old 01-12-2011, 11:45 PM   #1
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do i need to rotate my rotors

my brakes done started squeaking and my service dude told me i needed to rotate my rotors also when i put the new pads on. Is this necessary and if so does anybody kno how to do it? preciate it in advance
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:51 PM   #2
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I had brake squeak in the first few hundred miles but went away after past 1000 miles.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:58 PM   #3
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my brakes done started squeaking and my service dude told me i needed to rotate my rotors also when i put the new pads on. Is this necessary and if so does anybody kno how to do it? preciate it in advance
Something must have been lost in the conversation. Any chance he said turn your rotors?

A few quick questions.

1. How many miles on your Camaro?
2. How many miles on your brakes?
3. Is it an SS?
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:29 AM   #4
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Something must have been lost in the conversation. Any chance he said turn your rotors?

A few quick questions.

1. How many miles on your Camaro?
2. How many miles on your brakes?
3. Is it an SS?
he might've said turn them
and i have 26,000 on my ls camaro
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:41 AM   #5
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he might've said turn them
and i have 26,000 on my ls camaro
Turn them removes some stock from each rotor face making it smooth. Smooth rotors and new pads bed or mate to each other for smoothing operation.

The 5th Gen is a heavy car with a strong engine and stronger brakes. If you drive agressively I suggest new front rotors for optimal brake function. If you drive a bit more conservatively turning will work for you.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:08 AM   #6
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Turn them removes some stock from each rotor face making it smooth. Smooth rotors and new pads bed or mate to each other for smoothing operation.

The 5th Gen is a heavy car with a strong engine and stronger brakes. If you drive agressively I suggest new front rotors for optimal brake function. If you drive a bit more conservatively turning will work for you.
thank for the info... but could you elaborate on how to turn them
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:19 AM   #7
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thank for the info... but could you elaborate on how to turn them
I'm glad he steered you in the right direction.
Turning them is something a brake or machine shop does on a special lathe...

They chuck the rotor up, and cut both side at the same time. You may see them wrap a big weighted band around the rotor, that is a harmonics dampener, to reduce harmonic chattering when they are cutting them... It allows for a smoother finish. This will true, or straighten up the rotor if it is warped due to heat or excessive wear say for example if the brake pads wear down and allow the rivets to get into the rotor surface....

It's not a big deal, but I agree, the front rotors should be replaced if you are into heavy driving, hard on the brakes as in performance driving, if you casually drive it to work and never really hammer on the gas and brakes, and the rotors are still fairly true, then turning should be ok, but... I would never ever turn the front rotors more than one time...By this I mean, if you turn them now and put them back on, a year or two or three from now or whenever they give you problems again, do not turn them, replace them... It will take probably several passes with the brake lathe to true up both sides...They are only cutting thousandths of an inch off at a time... and a reputable brake shop will havee the numbers available for the minimum tolerances. It's usually imprinted on the rotor...This is the thinnest the rotor can be and still be useable...

Thats just me though... Front brakes are roughly 80% of your braking power....

Sorry if I went too far in this explanation, just wanted to make sure you understand the terms and have some information...
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I'm glad he steered you in the right direction.
Turning them is something a brake or machine shop does on a special lathe...

They chuck the rotor up, and cut both side at the same time. You may see them wrap a big weighted band around the rotor, that is a harmonics dampener, to reduce harmonic chattering when they are cutting them... It allows for a smoother finish. This will true, or straighten up the rotor if it is warped due to heat or excessive wear say for example if the brake pads wear down and allow the rivets to get into the rotor surface....

It's not a big deal, but I agree, the front rotors should be replaced if you are into heavy driving, hard on the brakes as in performance driving, if you casually drive it to work and never really hammer on the gas and brakes, and the rotors are still fairly true, then turning should be ok, but... I would never ever turn the front rotors more than one time...By this I mean, if you turn them now and put them back on, a year or two or three from now or whenever they give you problems again, do not turn them, replace them... It will take probably several passes with the brake lathe to true up both sides...They are only cutting thousandths of an inch off at a time... and a reputable brake shop will havee the numbers available for the minimum tolerances. It's usually imprinted on the rotor...This is the thinnest the rotor can be and still be useable...

Thats just me though... Front brakes are roughly 80% of your braking power....

Sorry if I went too far in this explanation, just wanted to make sure you understand the terms and have some information...
na the length is all good i really appreciate it
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I'm glad he steered you in the right direction.
Turning them is something a brake or machine shop does on a special lathe...

They chuck the rotor up, and cut both side at the same time. You may see them wrap a big weighted band around the rotor, that is a harmonics dampener, to reduce harmonic chattering when they are cutting them... It allows for a smoother finish. This will true, or straighten up the rotor if it is warped due to heat or excessive wear say for example if the brake pads wear down and allow the rivets to get into the rotor surface....

It's not a big deal, but I agree, the front rotors should be replaced if you are into heavy driving, hard on the brakes as in performance driving, if you casually drive it to work and never really hammer on the gas and brakes, and the rotors are still fairly true, then turning should be ok, but... I would never ever turn the front rotors more than one time...By this I mean, if you turn them now and put them back on, a year or two or three from now or whenever they give you problems again, do not turn them, replace them... It will take probably several passes with the brake lathe to true up both sides...They are only cutting thousandths of an inch off at a time... and a reputable brake shop will havee the numbers available for the minimum tolerances. It's usually imprinted on the rotor...This is the thinnest the rotor can be and still be useable...

Thats just me though... Front brakes are roughly 80% of your braking power....

Sorry if I went too far in this explanation, just wanted to make sure you understand the terms and have some information...
Spot on!
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